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    Every four years or so we are asked to vote for a person that we know very little about. Whether it be his/her personality, lifestyle, honesty or voting patterns in the House of Commons. We are asked to put our trust in someone, man or woman, who is supposed to act in our best interests. But on many occasions fall down on that commitment.
    Your MP is someone who would, and in fact has done, take us into a war without any consultation or consideration of our opinion should we oppose his view.
    An MP is perceived to make pledges to the people who voted for him/her but forgets to uphold them when he/she secures the majority vote and takes office.
    As recent adverse newspaper reports reveal, MPs are more than likely to discard the problems of the electorate and look after themselves as the recent expenses scandal has shown.

    The purpose of this thread is to test the average voter's knowledge of their MP and see if they're satisfied with his/her performance. Your vote is extremely important and you should consider if the individual who is asking for it, is worthy of it.
    I'll start with mine: George Howarth. Some of this info is from personal knowledge and some is from the website: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/

    Background:
    Lived in Knowsley and was educated locally. Spent many years on Knowsley Borough Council and held several chair positions.
    Sought the vacant position of MP when the local Labour Party booted out Robet Kilroy-Silk. Aided and abetted by his father-in-law George Rogers, who was Librarian in Walworth Road, Labour Party Hdqrs. George Rogers campaigned directly for Howarth to Neil Kinnock and as a result of that meeting George Howarth was imposed over the wishes of the local Labour Party. Howarth had the support of ONE Labour party branch and the other person in contention for the seat was Les Huckfield, who had the support of the other branches, about SEVEN
    Performance:
    Since being elected to the House 1986, George Howarth has had less than moderate success. One would think that after 24yrs in office he would have stamped his mark on one major issue. Alas there's no evidence he's achieved very much. In fact the only thing George has been successful at is looking after Number One.
    His expenses are high. Staffing costs-99,655 (2010) He employs his wife and his son at the expense of the taxpayer and as Parliamentary adviser to the William Hill Organisation he gets an additional (25,001-30,000) per annum on top of his MPs salary.
    Got star billing in the Telegraph's: Most Ludicrous expense claim. For an antique Chest of Drawers; Cost 1,000. Reason for purchase; To go with his antique Wardrobe.


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    So is my Labour MP worthy of my support? I don't think so.

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    My MP is the well known TV star; Ms Abbot.

    In the last twenty years or so we have crossed paths (literally) each time she has cringed. I do not take that personally, it was probably the shock of being recognised.
    She lives in two worlds; she takes the labour vote, but seldom the whip. Yet a vote for her is a vote for Gordon and the rest. So, no. Not Labour for me.

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    Oops, we have crossed paths three times.

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    Since i live in Formby , i don't even know my neighbours , let alone my MP !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennylane View Post
    Since i live in Formby , i don't even know my neighbours , let alone my MP !
    I can inform you that your MP is the SECOND MOST EXPENSIVE one out of the lot of them. (Though to be fair, I gather she is also one of the harder working ones).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennylane View Post
    Since i live in Formby , i don't even know my neighbours , let alone my MP !
    This link shows the results for the 2005 election. It might help.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2...html/map05.stm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennylane View Post
    Since i live in Formby , i don't even know my neighbours , let alone my MP !
    I believe Claire Curtis-Thomas is the name - those hyphens never come cheap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    I believe Claire Curtis-Thomas is the name - those hyphens never come cheap!
    Oh i know of her yes , we never hear of her until election time though !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennylane View Post
    Oh i know of her yes , we never hear of her until election time though !
    Just been checking out what this public servant has been charging us for her services: she claimed 165,621 expenses last year, which is 20,000 pounds above the average figure for all MPs. Now I would have thought that 20,000 rather a lot, even if that had been the total amount - but to think that's just the OVERspend!!!

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    They are all in it for themselves they all **** in the same pot...but i never miss a vote im a working class hero


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennylane View Post
    Oh i know of her yes , we never hear of her until election time though !
    Didn't you receive any of her letters? She must have sent a helluva lot! According to Wikipedia,
    "In 2003/2004, she had the highest expenses of any politician in Parliament, and was second highest in 2002/2003. For instance, she records very high postage bills."

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    Rosie Cooper. An expensive go between when corresponding with me and the DWP over my private pension. I was told it was being put back and when I complained to the ombudsman that it was tantamount to a miss sell and that I had this money earmarked right from when I took it out, I was told by Sir blooddy someone or other that my pension wasn't for me to use as I liked. I remarked on my last letter to him (via RC) that I bet Sir Freddy Goodwin got to use his inflated fat cat pension for whatever he liked but got no reply.

    Guess what. Now they want my vote, I got a letter off RC saying she knows how pensions are close to my heart so to vote for them as they do the most in that field.

    Yeah right - they can fcuk off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossy View Post
    They are all in it for themselves they all **** in the same pot...but i never miss a vote im a working class hero


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    What's the point? Isn't it time for change? - And I DON'T mean Cameron! Or even Clegg, though he does seem to have SOME quite radical ideas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    Didn't you receive any of her letters? She must have sent a helluva lot! According to Wikipedia,
    "In 2003/2004, she had the highest expenses of any politician in Parliament, and was second highest in 2002/2003. For instance, she records very high postage bills."
    If i have , they'll be in the bin , along with the betterwear catalouge , and all the rest of the junk mail i get !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Rosie Cooper. An expensive go between when corresponding with me and the DWP over my private pension. I was told it was being put back and when I complained to the ombudsman that it was tantamount to a miss sell and that I had this money earmarked right from when I took it out, I was told by Sir blooddy someone or other that my pension wasn't for me to use as I liked. I remarked on my last letter to him (via RC) that I bet Sir Freddy Goodwin got to use his inflated fat cat pension for whatever he liked but got no reply.

    Guess what. Now they want my vote, I got a letter off RC saying she knows how pensions are close to my heart so to vote for them as they do the most in that field.

    htmlYeah right - they can fcuk off.
    Yeah right indeed! She's another one with very hgh expenses - and other even more dodgy uses for our money.

    See:
    http//www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5390009/MPs-expenses-Rosie-Coopers-915-for-abandoned-flat-deal-as-claims-taken-to-wire

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    What's the point? Isn't it time for change?
    The usual pattern of voting at a General Election usually means that one of the two major parties will win. Clegg has entered as one of the possible winners because of the 'Celebrity' debate and his hanging onto the coat-tails of Vince Cable.
    Cables, Cassandra prophesies on the run-in to the credit crunch and economic chaos have done well for the Lib-Dems but the old saying: "Scratch a Liberal and you'll find a Tory underneath" holds sway when you look at their performance. Liverpool City Council which has a Lib-Dem administration is a typical example.

    I don't have the privilege of voting for an Independent, Green or Anti Sleaze Candidate. I will not vote Tory or anything related to them, so I'm stymied.
    But maybe you do. Use your vote well.

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    Trying again to make this Link active - not much luck so far...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...n-to-wire.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddsocks View Post
    I don't have the privilege of voting for an Independent, Green or Anti Sleaze Candidate. I will not vote Tory or anything related to them, so I'm stymied.
    But maybe you do. Use your vote well.
    IF I vote (and I never have) it could well be Green

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    My MP is Derek Twigg. He has been the Labour MP for Halton since 1997 and I was in the same class as him at school. Not much to say about him really. Not much scandal in the way of expenses, keeps his head low. He's pretty dull, duller than Professor Dull of the university of Dullnesshire! He achieved the heady heights of Junior Minister for War Veterans and when he was offered another Ministerial post after the last election, he refused it. I suspect he doesnt see eye to eye with Brown. Doesn't do much but tends to speak a lot about Hillsborough and how the Police were to blame etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    IF I vote (and I never have) it could well be Green
    It's Green for me Local Election wise. Not that that may mean anything to you, it is just so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    My MP is Derek Twigg. . . . . Doesn't do much but tends to speak a lot about Hillsborough and how the Police were to blame etc.
    Well that's not a bad place to start, Underworld. Andy Burnham could do with listening to him.

    My MP George Howarth has a constituency that lost several at the Hillsborough game and he opposed a public inquiry into the tragedy. The Hillsborough Family Support Group said were going to stand against Howarth, but it come to naught.

    I would have liked them to put a candidate up.

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    Twigg is otherwise useless believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    Trying again to make this Link active - not much luck so far...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...n-to-wire.html
    I've a good mind to print that out and post it back to her leaflet style. Hypocrite of the highest order that a party can deny you your own money and move the goalposts whilst claiming inflated expenses with our money. Pfft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    IF I vote (and I never have) it could well be Green
    Anyone else see the Green Party's election broadcast last night? I thought it was very good.

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