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    Default Who Remembers the Punch & Judy man!?

    I remember watching this,by St.George's hall,but then it moved to various sites around town,and I think his son took over managing Punch,and his missus! Is it still around at all now?


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    Great Pic Steve

    I think I can remember seeing one? im probably too young. Saw one in Southport deffo.

    This pic is from the old Liverpool Life museum.
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    Just seen his posh Speaker on the tent.
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    I vaguely remember seeing Punch and Judy, Dont think I ever saw the one in Lime Street tho, that I was told used to be there. Think I may have saw one in Southport or some other holiday resort. To be quite honest, I thought Punch was quite scary and a wife beater.Dont think they could get away with it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Great Pic Steve

    I think I can remember seeing one? im probably too young. Saw one in Southport deffo.

    This pic is from the old Liverpool Life museum.
    Spike....Too young ? I remember it in town. In fact the guy who did it in town used to go around the schools. It wasn't Codman though.

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    There is still plenty of them around. It is something that interests me and I must read up on the history of P+J. I'm sure there is a deep hidden meaning in watching one of these and they are quite sinister. My kids never seemed that keen on them and they can't be very pc these days. But then is Tom an Jerry?

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    Hi

    yes, professor Codman, one of the oldest punch and judy operators in the UK.
    He always had his dog with him. Sadly I think all the male Codmans have died
    out. The show is still operated today by various other people. 2 of the Codmans
    are buried in Anfield Cemetery CE11, but the graves are un marked.

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    Think I remember seeing P & J in Williamson Square??

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    2 of the Codmans
    are buried in Anfield Cemetery CE11, but the graves are un marked.
    I remember watching the punch & Judy in Williamson Sq maybe late 70's early 80's

    its sad that their graves are unmarked as they brought pleasure to generations of Liverpool kids
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    The Codman Punch and Judy was in Lime st by the post with the notices on before being moved to St Georges plateau over the Merseyrail entrance

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    They have one in LLandudno every Sunday during the summer season. Seen it loads of times.
    Strangely, I can't recall watching Punch & Judy in Liverpool !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    The Codman Punch and Judy was in Lime st by the post with the notices on before being moved to St Georges plateau over the Merseyrail entrance

    Just found this http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/local...iverpool.shtml
    Thanks for this,Joe! That's the corner I saw P&J,but the audience wasn't so big,or enthusiastic!!

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    Prof.Codman lived on Farnworth St in the '60's.Around where Wightman St now meets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNASHER View Post
    Prof.Codman lived on Farnworth St in the '60's.Around where Wightman St now meets it.
    You learn something new every day ! I never knew that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    The Codman Punch and Judy was in Lime st by the post with the notices on before being moved to St Georges plateau over the Merseyrail entrance

    Just found this http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/local...iverpool.shtml
    That looks like a football crowd, not a Punch and Judy crowd - look at the rosettes and scarves they are wearing - of course, being black/white we can't see which team they supported...:^

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    I remember the Punch and Judy show being located as in Joe’s photo; in the fifties it was on the triangle section as you turn from Lime St into St Johns Lane. opposite the Washington Hotel. It was a cobbled car park area and the theatre was by the post as Joe said. I remember stopping to watch it one Saturday lunchtime, there was a guy standing next to me laughing, it turned out to be ‘Jerry Calona’ (if that is how you spell his name?) he made a hit record with ‘Ebb Tide’. I think he was on the Empire that week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNASHER View Post
    Prof.Codman lived on Farnworth St in the '60's.Around where Wightman St now meets it.
    He did indeed, the same street my dad was brought up in.

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    Liverpool bringing the cup back in 1965 see;

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing View Post
    He did indeed, the same street my dad was brought up in.
    I think you will find that he was one of the sons, as parent Codmans died
    in the early 1900,s, one in 1901 and one in 1904.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    Liverpool bringing the cup back in 1965 see;

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/exacta2...7600357855719/
    for further happy people
    Ha,thought the crowd was a bit too big!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    I think you will find that he was one of the sons, as parent Codmans died
    in the early 1900,s, one in 1901 and one in 1904.
    Ta for that. I think he knew that.

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    Does anyone here, know anything of the history of "Punch & Judy"? I vaguely recall some French connection?(no pun intended!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Does anyone here, know anything of the history of "Punch & Judy"? I vaguely recall some French connection?(no pun intended!)
    Wiki to the rescue.... and very interesting...

    The Punch and Judy show can trace its roots to the 16th-century Italian commedia dell'arte. The figure of Punch derives from the Neapolitan stock character of Pulcinella, which was Anglicized to Punchinello. He is a manifestation of the Lord of Misrule and Trickster figures of deep-rooted mythologies. Punch's wife was originally "Joan".

    May 9, 1662 - the date on which the figure who later became Mr Punch made his first recorded appearance in England - is traditionally reckoned by "professors" as Punch's UK birthday. The diarist Samuel Pepys observed a marionette show featuring an early version of the Punch character in Covent Garden in London. It was performed by an Italian puppet showman, Pietro Gimonde (aka "Signor Bologna"). Pepys described the event in his diary as "an Italian puppet play, that is within the rails there, which is very pretty."


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    Remember the P&J in in Lime St well , Jeez am I the only old B***** here ? It was a must see when we kids went into town followed by a wander round the the back streets of the Market to see all the strange characters & salesmen there , all free entertainment . Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Ham View Post
    Jeez am I the only old B***** here ?
    hee,hee! you sound like me Ron ! ... I always say the same thing about myself - - I must be the oldest bladdy one in here .. remembering black & white telly and Four Feather Falls ! !! I don't mind even if I am !!

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    I remember it.Was there for years.The cafe outside of the station took it's name from it.

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    Even though I know it was there, I don't have a memory of actually seeing it. I must have passed it of course, but can't picture it in my mind. I don't remember ever standing watching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    hee,hee! you sound like me Ron ! ... I always say the same thing about myself - - I must be the oldest bladdy one in here .. remembering black & white telly and Four Feather Falls ! !! I don't mind even if I am !!

    Loved Four Feather Falls. So I must be a similar age to you Lindylou.

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    I think you're all lying. I remember seeing it on that piece of land on Joe's pic and it was known as the quadrant. That would be late 60s. Theo riginal punch and judy cafe was on the left of the block by the Gloucester street entrance to the station. Then when that new concourse was put up in the 60s, it was moved to underneasth Concourse house. A few pics in books of the P&J show at that site and also on line.
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    Here`s the Punch and Judy cafe with crowds trying to get in,in 1965.
    (Only kidding it`s Liverpool`s cup crowd)
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