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    Old Higsons sign, Gregsons Well pub


    Newsham Park gate-post. I've seen this design somewhere else, with the bird surrounded in a wreath.

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    Good pics and info all

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    Thanks, Marky. As John says, nice photographs. I have to admit though that the sandstone of the Newsham gatepost is so highly eroded that I can't make out a Liver Bird on it. I take your word that it is meant to represent one and that you have seen similar Liver Birds within a wreath. Maybe you could post an example so we can compare them? Thanks in advance.

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    Considering that the parks were laid out by the Corporation, I can't imagine that it's anything but a Liver Bird.
    All Liver Birds carry seaweed in their mouths.
    Admittedly, this design is new to me, but the gates at Sefton Park also have an unusual Liver bird.

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    You've got me worried now, that I've posted a 'duffer'. I'll check around the 'net for a similar design. I know I've seen one recently. I can see that the wings of the bird extend beyond the 'circle' of the wreath, so it does look like a Liverbird with out-stretched wings. This type of design seems to be rarer than the usual side-on view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    You've got me worried now, that I've posted a 'duffer'. I'll check around the 'net for a similar design. I know I've seen one recently. I can see that the wings of the bird extend beyond the 'circle' of the wreath, so it does look like a Liverbird with out-stretched wings. This type of design seems to be rarer than the usual side-on view.
    Hi Marky

    Okay, now you mention the outstretched wings I can discern the shape of the bird. Glad you mentioned that. The design, even down to the wreath, is similar to the way the Roman eagle was displayed. Again I will be most interested to see if you can come up with comparable Liver Birds around the city in better shape than the Newsham one.

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    It only seems to say Newsham on that stone.
    Could it be because the Park was laid out in the grounds of Newsham House, and that the stone predates the Park, and refers to the house?
    In that case it might not be a Liver Bird.

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    Is the word 'Park' on the other gatepost?.
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    Hey my dad used to work for Higsons.....

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    Here's Kevs' pic. from post No.44 of this thread:


    The above is from St. Georges Hall and appears in the book of Liverbirds. The one I posted is from the Newsham Park entrance at Prescot Road. The other post at the entrance does indeed say 'Park' and has some initials on it. I'm pretty sure I saw the same design at another entrance to the park (Sheil Rd end, probably). I'll check the rest of the gate-posts to see if they're any clearer. It looks similar to St Georges Hall Liverbird, but it doesn't appear in the Liverbird book. But not all do. Only an old photograph, if any exist, would confirm.

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    Found this one on the main road opposite the entrance to Brunswick Dock.
    Can not see it on the forum, but maybe my eyes are playing up.
    Also this is at the same location :- >>>>>


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    Extract describing St Georges Hall Liver Birds...doors with panels of foilage inhabited by front-facing Liver Birds and incorporating tridents and the letters SPQL, an adaption of the motto of Rome and meaning 'to the Senate and the People of Liverpool*
    *The Little Book Of Liver Birds by David Cottrell (Breedon Books ISBN 1 85983 547 3)

    The letters SPQL caught my eye as they appear on the the 'Park' gate-post, next to the 'Newsham' gate-post. Therefore, I'd say that the carving on it, is a worn-out, Liverbird (it doesn't look like an Eagle, Dove etc) The one I posted yesterday, and the one of St Georges Hall appear to have a 'Romanesque' look to them.


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    Default Liverpool Town Hall Liverbird

    A rather nice carved Liverbird on a town hall chair
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    don't think these 2 have been posted before

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