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    great to see these little pieces of history still dotted around our city. I think it's what makes it so special


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    This is the usual bisected natural stone with large initials. I can see a large 'G' on one side, but unfortunately the other side is worn...can someone confirm it was a 'W'.
    This is on the modern-day boundary of L17/L18.
    This is located on Victoria Road near the junction with Carnatic Road, which can be seen in the distance in the second pic.
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    Default Victoria Rd Aigburth Vale

    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    This is the usual bisected natural stone with large initials. I can see a large 'G' on one side, but unfortunately the other side is worn...can someone confirm it was a 'W'.
    This is on the modern-day boundary of L17/L18.
    This is located on Victoria Road near the junction with Carnatic Road, which can be seen in the distance in the second pic.
    Thanks for this one Marky, another stone I didn't know about. I cannot make out a W but yes the boundary stone was the Garston/Wavertree boundary marker. It's shown on my 1908 large scale map from Alan and Godfrey. The boundary stone was close to two others marking the point where the townships of Toxteth Park, Garston and Wavertree met. I don't know if the others still exist though as the area has been subject to re-development

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    T.T.P. (Township of Toxteth Park)
    This is located on North Mossley Hill Road, near Ibbotsons Lane (the car in the second pic is parked in Ibbotsons Lane...at this end it is a Public Footpath and leads to the Iron Bridge at Sefton Park).
    Everything North of the stone is in Toxteth Park...there isn't any indication of the area South of the stone...Wavertree ?
    I'll definately have to send these pics to Toxteth.net as evidence of the Toxteth boundary are very rare.
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    Wavertree/Garston Stone and on Rose Lane? Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    T.T.P. (Township of Toxteth Park)
    This is located on North Mossley Hill Road, near Ibbotsons Lane (the car in the second pic is parked in Ibbotsons Lane...at this end it is a Public Footpath and leads to the Iron Bridge at Sefton Park).
    Everything North of the stone is in Toxteth Park...there isn't any indication of the area South of the stone...Wavertree ?
    I'll definately have to send these pics to Toxteth.net as evidence of the Toxteth boundary are very rare.
    Super photographs, Marky! Thanks once again. I totally agree that you should send these pics to Toxteth.net. Good work. I also agree with Taffy that all such markers should be listed.

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    My uncle was over from Ireland and we were cutting through by St. Mary's graveyard when he noticed a stone and said ''Jesus, 210, this guy was old''

    I asked him what the name said on the stone, he brushed some undergrowth one side and said ''Miles from London''.

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    Wavertree Playground markers:
    Toxteth.net has more info on these including a pic of the missing W and T.P. stones
    http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...y/boundary.htm

    Today there is a Railway Boundary Post in the area where the Stone Markers where. The remains of an old wooden fence can still be seen in places along the line of the modern railings. The Stones where against the old wooden fence. Nearby is a mystery stone block...it could be nothing, but there were a couple of other markers on early maps. The area of interest is the Smithdown Road/Grant Avenue section.
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    Default A different type of Boundary Stone.

    This was between the Queens cinema and the Salvation Army on Walton Road.



    1986 photos.
    The car park is the site of the cinema
    The boundary stone was on the wall on the other side of the poster.
    The wall was all that remained of the cinema.
    A McDonalds has replaced both buildings.
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    That's really unusual, Philip. Are you saying then that because of the redevelopment at the site, the stone has been lost?

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    All these stone markers should be listed...City 800 years old/Capital of Culture celebrations and these stones are just left to disappear.
    Looking at the Toxeth Park one at N. Mossley Hill Rd. it is the only one posted that is not symmetrical...as if it has been cut in half, or should be butting against another stone? (just speculation)...the curve just looks suspicious.

    Here's the marker between the Otterspool Promenade/Marine Esplanade (the railings are different either side of this brick marker). I fully expect people, in years to come, will use this as proof that Otterspool stretches as far as this point...which it does not...this point is still very much Dingle.
    Interesting also for it mentions the Cast Iron Shore.
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    Here's the Much Woolton/Little Woolton Boundary Stone in Church Road, Woolton.
    The location pic is taken from Church Road, looking towards Reservoir Road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    That's really unusual, Philip. Are you saying then that because of the redevelopment at the site, the stone has been lost?

    Chris
    I suppose it has been lost.
    Unless it has been given pride of place in McDonalds.

    At the time I wondered if I was the only person who had ever taken a photo of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    Here's the Much Woolton/Little Woolton Boundary Stone in Church Road, Woolton.
    The location pic is taken from Church Road, looking towards Reservoir Road.

    Great to see. Thanks, Marky!

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    Harrington Dock Stone...marks Eastern Terminal Point:

    THIS STONE ERECTED IN
    THE YEAR 1885 IS PLACED ON
    THE SITE OF THE SOUTHERN BASIN
    OF HARRINGTON DOCK TO MARK
    THE EASTERN TERMINAL POINT
    OF THE IMAGINARY LINE REFERRED
    TO IN SECTION 103 OF THE MERSEY
    DOCK ACTS CONSOLIDATION
    ACT 1858
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