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    Quote Originally Posted by irishseashipping.com View Post
    I don't think the Pier Hotel near Hamilton Square station featured in a couple of the photographs has ever opened since the structure was rebuilt as part of an office block in the 1980s! it has just been an empty shell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishseashipping.com View Post
    I don't think the Pier Hotel near Hamilton Square station featured in a couple of the photographs has ever opened since the structure was rebuilt as part of an office block in the 1980s! it has just been an empty shell.

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    I go past there every day on the bus...its been derelict for some time!

    I have to say it is good to see this thread includes the rest of the Merseyside area...we have such a diverse range of public houses around the banks of the Mersey...most of them are still open. Lets hope they continue to do so for a while!
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    St. Johns House, St. Johns Lane now houses Dr Duncans.




    When this first opened after renovation in 1979/80 it was Rockfords night club and Earl St. Johns but it wasn't always like that - oh no. Back when Dr Duncans (now Pogue Mahone) was in Seel Street - his birthplace - a likely lad from the Swan area used to idle down to work then get down to idle when we were renovating this place.

    In the meantime, my mate Chris and I painted this ceiling.




    Hanging precariously from a scaffolding with no harnesses or rails, we'd lean out as far as we could get before dragging it around the room (they couldn't afford one with wheels you see)

    Then we'd have to dismantle the top layer to get under these very ornamental mosaic arches (which we also buffed up)




    So that we could paint the lower ceiling. It only took us 4 months as we dragged it out a bit




    But at least mart did learn how many wheelbarrow loads of sand makes a ton.
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    Cracking Pics Ged, this lad from the Swan though...
    Sounds like HE probably did all the work whilst you and your mate "Idled"

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    the Salisbury on Walton Breck Road in Anfield has been boarded up over the last week

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    The Winchester on Townsend Lane, Anfield has been closed for ages.
    There will be no local pubs left in Liverpool at this rate !
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    Having carried out a comprehensive photographing of every pub in Liverpool including Huyton, kirkby and Sefton over the last couple of years. It is true that many were already empty or derelict and since then some more have closed and some have even re-opened. I think the trend now amongst the biggest age range of drinkers is to drink cheaply at home until 11pm then hit the town where more new pubs have opened up in the last 5 years than at any one time since Victorian times. The corner local is becoming a relic of the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Having carried out a comprehensive photographing of every pub in Liverpool including Huyton, kirkby and Sefton over the last couple of years. It is true that many were already empty or derelict and since then some more have closed and some have even re-opened. I think the trend now amongst the biggest age range of drinkers is to drink cheaply at home until 11pm then hit the town where more new pubs have opened up in the last 5 years than at any one time since Victorian times. The corner local is becoming a relic of the past.

    I'd agree with that. Even when I was at Uni, I'd "pre-load" (lovely term) at home before going into town around midnight. The habit has continued to this day whereby we'd have a bottle before getting a cab straight into town. I only go to the local to watch the match these days.


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    Nice photos of Dr Duncans Ged! Shows the side room up very well. Anyone who has not been there will get a good idea from these photos, Well Done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    St. Johns House, St. Johns Lane now houses Dr Duncans.




    When this first opened after renovation in 1979/80 it was Rockfords night club and Earl St. Johns but it wasn't always like that - oh no. Back when Dr Duncans (now Pogue Mahone) was in Seel Street - his birthplace - a likely lad from the Swan area used to idle down to work then get down to idle when we were renovating this place.

    In the meantime, my mate Chris and I painted this ceiling.




    Hanging precariously from a scaffolding with no harnesses or rails, we'd lean out as far as we could get before dragging it around the room (they couldn't afford one with wheels you see)

    Then we'd have to dismantle the top layer to get under these very ornamental mosaic arches (which we also buffed up)




    So that we could paint the lower ceiling. It only took us 4 months as we dragged it out a bit




    But at least mart did learn how many wheelbarrow loads of sand makes a ton.
    .......and I got told it was painted by real artisans!

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    Real p1ss artisans maybe
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    Coopers pub in it`s new livery today.
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    The Atlantic on Derby Rd being renovated

    The Bar of the Atlantic







    Noice the poster on the left Echo Pub of the Year
    I was passing here today so I called in the Iron Horse on the corner of Sandhills Lane for a pint . I asked the what they were doing to the Atlantic
    she told me they were painting it,I was surprised to find out it is run by the same manager as the Iron Horse.It is only opened at the weekends or for functions. Although I came from this area I have never been inside the Atlantic the barmaid kindly opened it up to show me all the old photos ,musical intruments and posters which adorn the walls these are just some of the pics I took
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    I used to go in here on a sunday, last year to see the groups including Phil Jones aka two's a crowd aka afraid of mice. The Iron Horse next door also has groups on. I remember Billy and Wally programmes coming from here too.
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    Default The Spirit Vaults, 110 Gt Howard St L3

    Hi folks not sure if anyone can help me with this? But any info would be helpful, This pub was ran by my relies back in the 1800's, from around 1850 to 1871 I last found it on the 1891 census still listed as a pub but with a different family at the helm. Can anyone tell me anything about its history or perhaps someone may have an old pic of the pub. This site was a great find and you all seem such nice people, hope to visit often.

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    Hiya marymint. I have a list of the pubs that existed on that side of the road which will have been the stretch from Leeds Street to Sherwood Street. Do you know which street it was on the corner of (if any)

    There was a WSV - Wine and spirit vaults on the corner of Maddrell Street (formerly Slate St) in the 1800s which became the British Queen Vaults later on.
    In 1908 the manager was James Hamilton.

    Could this be the one as the only others seem to be the Trafalgar Arms (formerly the Freemasons Arms pre 1800s) - this was on the corner of Upper William St.

    Nearer town was Dodd Vaults on the corner of Sprainger Street named after the manager Thomas Dodd. In the 1980s it became O'Gorman's bar. This actually was also a SV pre 1870s. A photo of this is on my site below.






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    Hiya Ged, thanks for the quick reply. I can give you some more info which I got from the census. Here goes in 1861 my man Hugh Ryan was listed as the publican at 110 Gt Howard Street "Spirit Vaults". This is the first entry on the page and a big family living there. The next on the page is what looks like Sprainger St and Whitley Street. On the 1871 census it begins with 108 Gt Howard St, then 110 Gt Howard St a William Connolly being the publican now married to Hugh Ryans neice Rose. The adresses below are what looks like Gt Howard Court? and then Princes Walk?. 1881 has William Connolly as the publican again top of the page is 108 Gt Howard St, then 110 the address of William followed by Gt Howard Court no 2 and then princes walk again. From the A - Z it looks like it is the somewhere between Howards Court? and Sprainger St, what do you think? I suppose it also depends on which way the enumerator ( the census counting guy ) decided to walk!!
    Hope this is of some help to you. Thanks again for your time on this one.

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    Ah right. Just had a look in my 1908 Edwardian A-Z/Street directory and Dodds Vaults was No.80 so forget that.

    110 (not listed - sods law) would have been on the block from Whitley st to Upper William Street.

    108 on the corner of Gt Howard st and Princes Walk was M. McCarthy - Chandler and on the opposite corner, No.112 was Nabb & Co. Bakers and flour dealers.

    Incidentally the Tam O'Shanter public house was at No.96 and the Shamrock Vaults at No.140(not listed in Freddy O'Connors pub on every corner book)

    Sorry but that little investigation has drawn a blank.
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    Ah never mind, thanks ever so much for looking it up for me. Perhaps if you notice the name in the future anywhere you would let me know. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Having carried out a comprehensive photographing of every pub in Liverpool including Huyton, kirkby and Sefton over the last couple of years. It is true that many were already empty or derelict and since then some more have closed and some have even re-opened. I think the trend now amongst the biggest age range of drinkers is to drink cheaply at home until 11pm then hit the town where more new pubs have opened up in the last 5 years than at any one time since Victorian times. The corner local is becoming a relic of the past.
    Couldnt agree more!

    At one point, you could start at the Hillside Pub on Liverpool Road Huyton, near the border with Prescot, then have a bit of a crawl all the way down to the Greyhound and Knotty Ash. In between you would find The Bluebell, The Oak Tree, The Eagle & Child and The Farmers Arms.
    All rough pubs, but all demolished. Only the Oak Tree stands between Prescot and The Greyhound.
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    The Langton Hotel on Regent Road,still empty after all these years.This is what happens when dockers aquire cars.
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    Inside Dr Duncans pub on St John`s Lane,Ged painted the ceiling in 1979.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    Inside Dr Duncans pub on St John`s Lane,Ged painted the ceiling in 1979.
    Hope he was wearing sunglasses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    Inside Dr Duncans pub on St John`s Lane,Ged painted the ceiling in 1979.
    Oh well done Ged, you do it all on your own then ?

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    Thanks Joe and no Kevin and Yes mart
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    If I started walking from the Pierhead on the dock road northwards, which would be the first pub on the LEFT HAND side I would see ?.
    I was asked this today.
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    don't often get the 18a out of town, but I had to go to Norris Green today.

    was saddened to see Gregsons Well like this


    this was it in April 2008


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