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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    I didn't mean to write photos! Sorry!! I meant sketches. From the papers of the day.
    I've looked at press cuttings from the trial at the record office and there didnt seem to be any pictures/sketches at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    I went there a few years back, and had a look on some old maps of the time of the murder, but I couldn't see it on that.
    It is in the Whittington Egan version of the story that I saw the figure of eight pit...

    interesting about the ponds theory philip
    I have a 1769 map of Toxteth Park that I got in a pack of stuff from Scouse Press. There is what I am assuming to be a pond marked on it in a figure of 8 shape, around the site of the current junction of Upper Stanhope St and Princes Rd. This is about 500m from Grenville St South. What I dont know is if this area had been built upon by 1849, if indeed whats on the map is a pond in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    I have a 1769 map of Toxteth Park that I got in a pack of stuff from Scouse Press. There is what I am assuming to be a pond marked on it in a figure of 8 shape, around the site of the current junction of Upper Stanhope St and Princes Rd. This is about 500m from Grenville St South. What I dont know is if this area had been built upon by 1849, if indeed whats on the map is a pond in the first place.
    That is brilliant
    Thank you so much for looking into that for me.
    What was the pack you got from Scouse Press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    That is brilliant
    Thank you so much for looking into that for me.
    What was the pack you got from Scouse Press?
    Have a look here. http://www.scousepress.co.uk/home.htm. I'm going back 4-5 years and I got packet number 2. If its what is advertised here it is great value, about 10 maps an 4-5 prints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    Hi
    This question is really directed at Chris George or Philip G for their expertise, Chris in true crime, PhilipG in Liverpool maps, etc.
    But any ideas/answers would be appreciated!

    In the Leveson St case, I have read a few times that the murderer washed his hands in the 'FIGURE OF EIGHT PIT, toxteth Park'...

    any ideas where this/is was?
    Is this referring to Mather's Dam ?

    I've attached a scan from an 1821 map.
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    Old-Merseytimes website, mentions a pond in a field at the end of Crown Street as being 'the figure of eight pit'. A mid-19th century map might show it.
    http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/levesonstmurder.html

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    Good find Marky.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

    Updated weekly with old and new pics.

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    Hi Gang,

    I've looked at the period maps (in particular the 1850 map of the area, before it was developed much beyond the junction of Beaumont St and Kingsley Rd) and I've superimposed the figure of eight pit (clearly visible - and to the same scale) onto a modern satellite photo, using an image from Google maps.

    I make its location just above the junction of Eversley Street and Kingsley Rd - and have lightened it up for greater clarity.



    1850 map showing 'figure of eight' pit



    Location of the 'figure of eight' pit transposed on a modern topographical map

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    Extract from Liverpool Mercury 1849 C)British Library





    Murder scene plan:
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