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    Well at least the concrete canal will replace it and add to the concrete sprawl that is becoming liverpool
    Honestly? Maybe you mean the Pier Head rather than 'Liverpool'?
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    ...it's debatable I suppose..

    Kev, do you like the look of the emerging PSD? Not keen on the red-tiled backs to the buildings like the new Lewiss' and a couple of the others there. Hopefilly they'll be covered by the hotels on the Strand.

    Have they started owt on the St.Lukes side of Hanover St yet? Looking at the official site it reads as if they're still waiting for purchase or planning for those plots...?

    Anyway I'll be looking forward to seeing all this for myself- first time home in over a year, huzzah!

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    Its a huge development that is slowly emerging from the depths of old Chavasse Park. I think the finished area will be fab. Obviously at the mo it doesn't look that nice
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    Stuff You Haven't Seen If You Haven't Been In Liverpool For 13 Months

    Beetham West
    Alex Tower
    Any PSD buildings
    Kings Dock Arena or car-park
    L1's deserted Marie-Celeste site
    Manch and Chester dock excavations
    World Museum(?)
    Unity's portakabin
    St. Pauls Square
    Baltic Triangle stuff

    Loads around Ropeworks, Dukie, elsewhere ??

    That's a lot of happening for one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Its a huge development that is slowly emerging from the depths of old Chavasse Park. I think the finished area will be fab. Obviously at the mo it doesn't look that nice
    Aye, but that Everton masterplan's 3-4 times the size (in terms of area anyway)!! It was you I talked about this to wasn't it?

    What was the budget for the PSD? Hope the Everton and Islington budgets are similarly 'fit for purpose.'

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    Aye, but that Everton masterplan's 3-4 times the size (in terms of area anyway)!! It was you I talked about this to wasn't it?

    What was the budget for the PSD? Hope the Everton and Islington budgets are similarly 'fit for purpose.'
    You don't need as much money for Everton and Islington because there's almost fluck all there. It's a bit like an artist starting with a blank canvas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by )3az )3aziah View Post
    Sadly its a bit of a moot point now as this was the scene around lunchtime today. The contractors had bulldozed the whole thing and now all that is left is three piles of sandstone boulders no bigger than your head.

    Well at least the concrete canal will replace it and add to the concrete sprawl that is becoming liverpool


    Nice to see you have such positive views of Liverpools' regeneration. I'm fed up of people who don't like change calling it a concrete sprawl. This is such a niave and pathetic comment. Concrete sprawls are 60's council estates and places like benidorm. There is alot of concrete around Liverpool now mainly because of all the construction, but soon there will be very little as the projects near completion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    You don't need as much money for Everton and Islington because there's almost fluck all there. It's a bit like an artist starting with a blank canvas.
    I just hope they do it well y'know?

    It would be nice to see as much care and attention (and prestige) giving people back the communities they deserve as much as creating shopping malls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
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    Nice to see you have such positive views of Liverpools' regeneration. I'm fed up of people who don't like change calling it a concrete sprawl. This is such a niave and pathetic comment. Concrete sprawls are 60's council estates and places like benidorm. There is alot of concrete around Liverpool now mainly because of all the construction, but soon there will be very little as the projects near completion.
    I have to disagree. If you compare the 'things' they are throwing up now to the likes of India buildings, the Liver and its two consorts, most of the top end of Water street and the Museum area, what they are putting up now is just pure cr@p.
    How you can also say that after the construction there will be very little concrete is beyond me, all the new 'buildings' I've seen so far are made of the stuff.

    On a lighter note though which part of Clubmoor do you live in as I'm just up the road from there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by )3az )3aziah View Post
    I have to disagree. If you compare the 'things' they are throwing up now to the likes of India buildings, the Liver and its two consorts, most of the top end of Water street and the Museum area, what they are putting up now is just pure cr@p.
    How you can also say that after the construction there will be very little concrete is beyond me, all the new 'buildings' I've seen so far are made of the stuff

    Just what do you think the Liver Building was constructed with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    Just what do you think the Liver Building was constructed with?
    Now let me guess?

    .....................

    But it was clad with granite.

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    I'd much rather have Liverpool in its present state than it was through the 80's and 90's - its very exciting in town now. The other areas where warehouses are being converted amongst new builds can't be described as concrete sprawl when significant buildings from the 1700's are being renovated anlong with the area - of course I'm referring to the Rope Walks area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by )3az )3aziah View Post
    I have to disagree. If you compare the 'things' they are throwing up now to the likes of India buildings, the Liver and its two consorts, most of the top end of Water street and the Museum area, what they are putting up now is just pure cr@p.
    How you can also say that after the construction there will be very little concrete is beyond me, all the new 'buildings' I've seen so far are made of the stuff.

    On a lighter note though which part of Clubmoor do you live in as I'm just up the road from there ?
    Firstly, alot of buildings being built are made from concrete such as the PSD, but when finished will be clad in glass, brick etc. Most buildings in the world are built with concrete as the foundations, but then covered with more pleasant materials as concrete is one of the most reliable and strongest materials around. Secondly, there are very few buildings where the exterior is made from concrete, and most of them are being demolished or actually look decent. Thirdly, think of what Liverpool looked like even just ten years ago. There was countless ugly concrete tower blocks in places like Everton, Kensington and Croxteth, which have all been demolished. Liverpool was a concrete jungle then, but not anymore. Don't forget, the Liver Building is made from re-inforced concrete.
    Finally, I live in the Larkhill Lane area, where do you live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Now let me guess?

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    But it was clad with granite.
    Which makes it look 100% better than the modern structures they are putting up all over the city.

    OK I don't like them but please that is my opinion and taking the P!ss out of me for having an opinon is a sure way of driving off a new member.

    Perhaps I should have come here with an "Isn't the new Liverpool the best thing since sliced bread" attitude and been better accepted ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    I live in the Larkhill Lane area, where do you live?
    I live just down the road from Clubmoor off Townsend Lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by )3az )3aziah View Post
    Which makes it look 100% better than the modern structures they are putting up all over the city.

    OK I don't like them but please that is my opinion and taking the P!ss out of me for having an opinon is a sure way of driving off a new member.

    Perhaps I should have come here with an "Isn't the new Liverpool the best thing since sliced bread" attitude and been better accepted ?
    I don't think anyone was taking the piss, you were ****ging the new buildings for being concrete and praising the Liver Building which was the original steel reinforced concrete building,
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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    I don't think anyone was taking the piss, you were ****ging the new buildings for being concrete and praising the Liver Building which was the original steel reinforced concrete building,
    Yeah but you do have to admit that the Liver looks a lot, lot better than the new ones they are putting up.

    They learned a lot from the construction of the Liver buildings -sadly esthetics was one that was forgotten (in my opinion) on the new buildings they are putting up now.

    I'm going to say no more on the subject now and choose to stand back and keep my opinions to myself.

    I still have a few more photo's to add though and will stick to that. My photography is hopefully better than my tastes in modern architecture

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    Quote Originally Posted by )3az )3aziah View Post
    Yeah but you do have to admit that the Liver looks a lot, lot better than the new ones they are putting up.

    They learned a lot from the construction of the Liver buildings -sadly esthetics was one that was forgotten (in my opinion) on the new buildings they are putting up now.

    I'm going to say no more on the subject now and choose to stand back and keep my opinions to myself.

    I still have a few more photo's to add though and will stick to that. My photography is hopefully better than my tastes in modern architecture
    You posted your "taking the P***" comment with my quote, so I don't know if you're blaming me.
    I responded to a previous comment, which was meant (I'm sure) lightheartedly.
    Don't be so thin-skinned & do please continue to post.

    BTW, the Romans invented concrete, so it's been around for quite a while.

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    To be honest Baz, I think most of us would share your concerns about most commercial modern architecture in terms of:

    1.)its lack if finish.
    2.)its overuse of short-lived faddy cliches. Remember the curved roof fad?
    3.)the modern economic inability to construct any stucture that isn't a simple mass-produced square, rectangle, circle or oval- leading to rectangular blocks everywhere rather than the spires, domes, irregular differentiated structures of yore.

    Baz, I speak as a contemporary designer and a hyper-modernist, but you had a point, yes, modern architecture is, in many ways a heap of cheap, crude, simplified, unskilled, generic, synthetic, plazzy, ****e.

    But: old stuff v new stuff- it's like comparing oranges to pears. And it's not going to change, so we just have to try to like the plazzy ****e!

    We've got some ok stuff going up here despite the all the above shortcomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    To be honest Baz, I think most of us would share your concerns about most commercial modern architecture in terms of:

    1.)its lack if finish.
    2.)its overuse of short-lived faddy cliches. Remember the curved roof fad?
    3.)the modern economic inability to construct any stucture that isn't a simple mass-produced square, rectangle, circle or oval- leading to rectangular blocks everywhere rather than the spires, domes, irregular differentiated structures of yore.

    Baz, I speak as a contemporary designer and a hyper-modernist, but you had a point, yes, modern architecture is, in many ways a heap of cheap, crude, simplified, unskilled, generic, synthetic, plazzy, ****e.

    But: old stuff v new stuff- it's like comparing oranges to pears. And it's not going to change, so we just have to try to like the plazzy ****e!

    We've got some ok stuff going up here despite the all the above shortcomings.
    I cant agree more, though I do like Oranges more than Pears

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    Dig unearths maritime past

    THE city’s maritime past is being explored by a team of archaeologists on the Liverpool waterfront.

    A dig is taking place in the Manchester Dock, Mann Island, which once teemed with barges coming and going between 1785 and 1920.

    The excavation takes place before work on the new Museum of Liverpool begins this year.

    The dock was originally used as a depot for barges of the Shropshire Union Canal Company and Great Western Railway.

    It played an important role in Liverpool’s import and export trade. It handled coal and manufactured goods leaving the city and corn and cotton coming in.


    The dock had been filled in with rubble from the construction of the Mersey tunnel.


    Among the discoveries are torpedo shaped pots used in the manufacture of sugar.


    These artefacts from Liverpool’s industrial history and other finds will be displayed in one of the new museum’s key galleries.


    The museum will be built by 2008 and open to the public in 2010. It will be housed in a new landmark building and cover the social history and popular culture of Merseyside.


    Viewing platforms, running along the riverside, allow the public to view the excavation for the next fortnight.

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    LIVERPOOL’S oldest horse taxi service has been moved from its traditional rank at the Pier Head as work starts on the UK’s first canal project for more than a century. more
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    "Liverpool's oldest horse-taxi service"

    ????!!!!!

    *S******

    I've never EVER seen it!

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    "Liverpool's oldest horse-taxi service" ????!!!!!

    *S******

    I've never EVER seen it!
    Probably because

    it never gets to London!

    He used to have his stables near the Pivvy in Lodge Lane, but I don't know where he's based now.
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    LIVERPOOL’S Pier Head will be open in time for Capital of Culture celebrations. more
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    Brilliant news.

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    Question

    About a year ago I read that the Liver Building and other buildings around the city such as the town hall could get a clean before 2008. Does anyone know if this is still planned? The town hall could certainly do with a sandblasting. It would be the same colour as St Georges Hall after cleaning!!

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    WORK will start within days on the new Museum of Liverpool at the city’s historic waterfront.

    National Museums Liverpool confirmed it had chosen a UK-Danish contractor to build the multi-million pound showpiece building on the day that a controversial new terminal for the Mersey Ferries also won planning approval.

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    Yesss!!

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    A couple of shots from yesterday




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