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    Does anybody remember what was on Everton Valley in between the Valley Pub and the Bank at the bottom of the Valley were the flats are now. I have seen old pictures and they look like builders yards but not to sure can anybody help cheers Ged


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    I was born in Everton Valley , as i remember it the was big houses on the same side as the pub , we lived in rooms , the house was owned by Johnny Morrisey who played for Everton , the there was the bank , and over the road was Pobjoy's jewellers and Harry Quuins bike shop .. Opposite the house i remember the bus stop and Barn's sweet shop , i cant remember what else was there though .. I'll ask my Dad , he'll know .

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    Don't recall any flats being at the bottom of everton valley? there where hi-rise flats at the junction of scotland Road and Boundry Road,behind those flats where Hi-rise flats on Great Homer Street.

    What type of flats?

    Here's a pic below of Everton Valley which Ged F posted elsewhere,the bank you can see opposite the pub and on the pub side further up(Blue Gates) I'm sure that was either a builders yard or council depot? opposite the pub is the Barcleys Bank,its closed down now and in recent times was a Upholstrey funiture business.
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    Not sure where u mean. Notre Dame convent school was on the left as you drop down from St Domingo Road towards Netherfield Road (do you mean those flats) . Me ma went there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    Not sure where u mean. Notre Dame convent school was on the left as you drop down from St Domingo Road towards Netherfield Road (do you mean those flats) . Me ma went there.
    Hah,those ones,they were maisonettes not flats.

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    Ha? Okay then the flats off Great Homer Street then!

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    I can't realy pinpoint what the yard was he's on about,even though I was forever going around that area when I wus a lad.

    Lived in Albion Street which was the next street to St Domingo Rd,went to Venice street school and I used to either cut through Tommy white gardens or sometimes take the long way round which meant going right down the bottom of St Domingo and up past Notre Dame girls school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard68 View Post
    Hi There
    Does anybody remember what was on Everton Valley in between the Valley Pub and the Bank at the bottom of the Valley were the flats are now. I have seen old pictures and they look like builders yards but not to sure can anybody help cheers Ged
    What period are you interested in?
    I might have some information.

    The Record Office have post-war Ordnance Survey maps (called 50 inch) which are a large enough scale to identify anything.

    Chances are they have copies from each decade.
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    Ok here the info.

    The red brick build next door but one from the pub up is or was the Lyra or Lydol? Theater at one time,the blue gates was some sort of works,next to that was the council depot...knew there was a council depot on the block somewhere.

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    I think Rainfords had a yard in Everton Valley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanier View Post
    I think Rainfords had a yard in Everton Valley
    The Blue gates works,firm began with a P but for the life of me cannot remember the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    The Blue gates works,firm began with a P but for the life of me cannot remember the name.
    The one I was referring to was William Rainfords, 11-13 Everton Valley, Builders Merchants, Haulage and Demolition, Plant Hire and Ready Mixed Concrete. I think it also was a brickworks.
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    Hi the period I am interested are the 50's 60's and 70's for that area
    Cheers

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    Hello George Thanks for the Pic. now there is an argument with the inlaws and i was wondering if you can settle it On the left of the Derby Arms a bit further down on the picture is that another pub if so what was it called cheers mate Gerard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard68 View Post
    Hello George Thanks for the Pic. now there is an argument with the inlaws and i was wondering if you can settle it On the left of the Derby Arms a bit further down on the picture is that another pub if so what was it called cheers mate Gerard
    As far as I know the only pubs in Everton Valley were the Derby Arms and the Valley.
    Next door to the Derby Arms was what remained of the Lyric Theatre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard68 View Post
    Hello George Thanks for the Pic. now there is an argument with the inlaws and i was wondering if you can settle it On the left of the Derby Arms a bit further down on the picture is that another pub if so what was it called cheers mate Gerard
    I remember that pub was an Ind Coopes pub, I think but am not certain it was called the Swan. It used to have cream and brown tilles on the front. It was on the corner of a lane, which formed the other side of the old theatre mentioned on Everton Valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard68 View Post
    Hello George Thanks for the Pic. now there is an argument with the inlaws and i was wondering if you can settle it On the left of the Derby Arms a bit further down on the picture is that another pub if so what was it called cheers mate Gerard
    hi Gerard,do you mean the building on the left of the photo?....if so it was the post office
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    Hiya Mandy. No, on the photo on page 1 of this thread, there is a pub either at the bottom of Kirkdale Vale or Royal Street on Walton Road itself. It's not in the pub on every corner book though.

    However, there is some info on the other buildings in that photo. The Derby Arms had carved, glazed pillars on its frontage, road improvements being responsible for its demolition. In 1892 the registered owner of it was the Earl of Derby who was in seat at Knowsley Hall.

    The lyric super cinema was only a cinema between 1922 and 1925, prior to this it was the lyric theatre. In 1925 it re-opened as a theatre again only to close down in 1932.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Hiya Mandy. No, on the photo on page 1 of this thread, there is a pub either at the bottom of Kirkdale Vale or Royal Street on Walton Road itself. It's not in the pub on every corner book though.

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    where was NEMS ,wasn't that somewhere near Walton Rd/Royal Street?
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    a photo of NEMS Walton Rd
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    found it!!!! ........The Black Bull 4-6 Walton Rd ,Alvina Lane
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post


    a photo of NEMS Walton Rd
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    Glad to see this photograph, Mandy. I bought a copy of the Beatles' LP Help! there in 1965. It was the first long-playing album I ever bought. Yes kiddies that's what "LP" stands for.

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    Hi,...I can give you 100% information on Everton Vallety --As I lived slap bang in the middle of the section you wanted to know about.
    Lets start by walking down Everton Valley in the 1960's ..
    We start at Lower Breck Road on the left pvement ..To our left is Major Lester School (now Hope School) ...then a little corner church at bottom of Sherlock Street ...then Notre Dame Collegiate Girls Catholic School (complete with Nuns) ...We reach a church playground where the Scouts and Cubs used to meet in the Hall across it ..We cross St Domingo Road and there is the Valley Pub (done up like a mock Tudor building)...just past it is the sweet shop run by a little old white haired lady (name escapes me at mo) ...outside her shop are the main bus stops for (27 -Sheil Road inner circle heading down Town ...44 from Kirkby ....17 from Broadway )...then we come to Numbers 50 to 12 Houses in Everton Valley ...these were big 3 floored sometimes 4 floored Victoriamn houses ...with huge yards behind them and gardens in front of them with steps ...Numbers 26-36-46 were Double fronted ,and so much bigger than the others ...36 was used as Doctors Surgeries by Drs Yardumium and Melrose ...Outside No 26 was the bus stop for the 33 and 34 bus to Seaforth...The houses ended at No 12 , because a German Parachute mine or mines took away the first 5 houses leaving a wasteland of rubble that the Midland Bank was built on , right on the corner of Netherfield Road...
    Crossing over and walking up the Valley ..we start with a tiled pub at the bottom ....as we walk up a facade of just front walls incl The Lyceum Theatre hit by a German parachute mine and destroyed in the Blitz....then we come to a Rainfords gate a long wall and the Top Rainfords gate ...Their big tipper tipper wagons brought old bricks from demolition areas to be crushed in machines ...because the land inside the top fgate was 20 foot higher than the their land further back the trucks could drive in and empty straight into the top of the crushers standing on the lower land ...(I was told A Hartleys jam factory was here but was bombed and burned out in the war) ....
    just up from the Top gate was the main bus route for 26, 44, 17, 33 + 34 buses going out of town ....then on the corner was Counsellor Norris's sweet shop...we cross Kirkdale Vale and the left side was houses ...(I am vague on this section --but of note was the very small removal van operated by a man (in 25 E.V. I think) which all the locals used to move furniture around the town....
    We reach Royal Street and Walton Lane.....EV in the 60's ...
    A fantastic place to live and spend my teens in ...

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    The Tiled Walkers pub with the old Post Office facing it , at the bottom of Everton Valley. -- (and as it is now)..

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ed=0CCgQ9QEwBA

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    36 was used as Doctors Surgeries by Drs Yardumium and Melrose
    Yardy wasmy Doc,and used to examine me from top to bottom way back then,not like todays doctors....prescription is the normfor todays doctors and thats that unless they booked you intothe hospitalfor a checkup.

    Willnever forget sitting there in a cellar waiting and waiting tohear the old clanger bell ringing fornext patient.
    When you entered the cellar you always had to ask "Who's next for Yardy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomK View Post
    The Tiled Walkers pub with the old Post Office facing it , at the bottom of Everton Valley. -- (and as it is now).
    Think it was called The Derby Arms??

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    It was the Derby Arms and the Lyceum Tom talks of was actually the Lyric.
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    A correction to my long post above .
    The shop coming DOWN E.V. on the LEFT side of E.V. was Norris's ...(near St Domingo Road junction).

    The shop on the Left going UP E.V. was Counsellor Gilligans = (on the corner of Kirkdale Vale).

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    Ged -- you are correct . The Derby Arms !! -- how could I forget that -I played darts there on many nights a week whilst having a pint and called in to the small room every Saturday for a drink after going to the Match (both LFC+ EFC) and to get the footy results to check my Pools Coupon by.

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    georgie porgie -- In the Doctor's Surgery -- we used to slide along the long benches zig zagging to to reach the front in my time ...and you eventually reached the front near Dr. Melrose's office ..then look to see whose bell had clinked ...Yardy's or Melrose's, so as to go in to your own Doctor.
    My Mother + Father first had "Old " Dr Yardumium then "Young" Dr Yardumium , even when he moved his surgery from E.V. to Westminster Road near the baths somewhere, and they had left EV to live about 10 miles away and had to catch 2 buses and a long walk from the bottomn of EV to surgery !! If they were ill when they set off they were cured by the time they got to the surgery.
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    Hi,...I can give you 100% information on Everton Vallety
    Not exactly a precise landmarking of the area as certain things have been left out,Tom.

    St Georges School,The Flats off Beacon Lane also viewable on St Domingo itself,The Washhouse,The shops on same side as the washouse further down,these shops had houses on top,the Albion house footy enclosure,ect,ect

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    (done up like a mock Tudor building)...just past it is the sweet shop run by a little old white haired lady (name escapes me at mo)
    Are you sure it wasn't a chemist?

    ---------- Post added at 06:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:35 PM ----------

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