Sport and Recreation Heritage

[Kev]

In relation to The Grand National, I believe Vegan feels passionately about animal cruelty and maybe we all need to come around to this way of thinking in relation to the grand national.

I can see the grand national reducing the size of the jumps in the next 2 years, I cannot see how it can continue when horses are being 'destroyed' - a word used by a BBC reporter yesterday.

I have been similar over issues with our fine city and its people and joined many forums, including the pete price one only to cool off after a while. I chilled out a bit, you get nowhere upsetting the apple cart and everyone is different and lives their lives in different ways. I hate with a passion, teen/ adult thuggery but thats another thread.

Anyway, I will let Vegan reply, then this thread will be locked 'till next year . Any future discussion about cruelty can be continued here

[victorialush]

Further to this discussion Kev, we are all different.... I have been brought up on a diet of Grand Nationals, dog racing etc.... the Grand National is our heritage and will always continue.

And for Vegan, there are many, many other issues worth the extra effort... I bet there are far more instances of cruelty to children than there are animals!

[Kev]

I know Thats what makes an exciting and diverse forum plod along.

[Gnomie]

I think Vegan has every right to reply, but as we respect others wishes and beliefs then please respect ours. it is good to believe in something but you have to accept that others may not feel the same way.

[victorialush]

I think Vegan has every right to reply, but as we respect others wishes and beliefs then please respect ours. it is good to believe in something but you have to accept that others may not feel the same way.

Exactly, that is called tolerance

[Brenda]

And for Vegan, there are many, many other issues worth the extra effort... I bet there are far more instances of cruelty to children than there are animals!

And I second that whole heartedly!.

[bobbymac]

Yes, I have to agree that Vegan has every right to her opinion, I just wish she wasn't so hard-headed about it, she leaves no room for compromise, and when a person gets to that point, I think it becomes form of stasis, and the learning curve suffers because of it.
I believe most reasonable folk hate animal cruelty, and in a small way, do what they can to stop it. For myself, I get my dogs at the S.P.C.A. and the pleasure of giving and older dog a new lease on life is beneficial to both of us. I have also been instrumental in shutting down 5 puppy mills in the region, which gives me great satisfaction, I don't scream it from the roof tops, I just go out and do it.

[Brenda]

I have also been instrumental in shutting down 5 puppy mills in the region, which gives me great satisfaction, I don't scream it from the roof tops, I just go out and do it.

I applaud you for doing your bit to help stop animal cruelty Bobby, and its so refreshing to hear about it without getting it rammed down your throat.

[Vegan]

Kev posted,"In relation to The Grand National, I believe Vegan feels passionately about animal cruelty and maybe we all need to come around to this way of thinking in relation to the grand national".

Here,here Kev!I applaud your integrity.

I fail to see the relavance of conjecturing about the number of human children versus the number of non-human children(puppies,kittens etc)who are abused.

The abuse of ANY living being,human animal or non-human animal is of equal concern to me because I am not speciesist.

Looking forward to next year's debate.Have a good year folks!

P.S http://www.greyhoundaction.co.uk/

[Gnomie]

Long Live The National

[Kev]

This section of the site is a celebration of heritage and culture. Here's to next year, hopefully without the fatalities, poor horsies.

[bazzacat]

He was a city engineer apparently, and they were first introduced at Anfield

[Kev]

He was a city engineer apparently, and they were first introduced at Anfield

That reminds me, the only remaining reminder of South Liverpool FC:

[Max]

Where was their ground?

[A.D.Williams]

Where was their ground?

The new station is built on the ground of Holly Park, Max.