Information on Toxteth?

[superlambananna]

Hey,

Hope everyone is doing well. I'm currently researching a story for university (I'm a third year journalism student at

John Moores) on Toxtheth 25 years.

I am wondering if any of you out there would be kind enough to give me your opinions on how you think it has/has

not changed since the riots with regards to housing, employment and the community, also do you think that in Liverpool winning the Capital of Culture has

this had any effect on the area for good or bad?

Any comments or opinions would be gratefully accepted.

Many thanks,

superlambananna

[scouserdave]

Give www.toxteth.net's Paul Christian a shout. There is nothing he doesn't know about Tocky

[snappel]

I don't know, there are some pretty

rundown areas of Toxteth even today, with scars of the riots clearly visible. Just take a look down Lodge Lane... How far does the COC stuff spread? I mean,

there's plenty of stuff going on in the town centre, but I've seen little change in Toxteth over the last 5 years.

Still, having said that, there's

all that 'New Kensington' stuff, but that's going off the point and only bound to dig up other arguments!!

But as Dave says, toxteth.net is a good

resource, so that would be a good start.

[superlambananna]

Cheers for the quick reply.

I will check toxteth.net out now.

superlambananna

[Waterways]

Toxteth is a very large area covering Liverpool 8, parts of 7, 15, 17 and 18. I think you mean Liverpool 8. They planted trees not much else. Some housing development has been done and a big project to re-do the Welsh Streets too, although this is now not then.

The top class developments on the docks may spread up into Toxteth and some are. The high class private flats on the corner of Park Place and Hill Street indicates this. The area will change and many of the poorer people may be priced out as developments move in.

Getting the Dingle underground rail Station back into use would re-generate that area, attracting developers - a few minutes into the centre and beyond. The station is still there underground complete with platforms. All it needs is renovating and a gantry bridge from the Dingle Tunnel to drop to the Merseyrail network line beneath at the Herculaneum Dock. A cheap price to lift an area up by its bootstraps. They could in time extend the tunnel further inland from Dingle adding one or two stations - as was the original intention.

[scouserdave]

Toxteth is a very large area covering Liverpool 8, parts of 7, 15, 17 and 18. I think you mean Liverpool 8. They planted trees not much else. Some housing development has been done and a big project to re-do the Welsh Streets too, although this is now not then.

The top class developments on the docks may spread up into Toxteth and some are. The high class private flats on the corner of Park Place and Hill Street indicates this. The area will change and many of the poorer people may be priced out as developments move in.

Getting the Dingle underground rail Station back into use would re-generate that area, attracting developers - a few minutes into the centre and beyond. The station is still there underground complete with platforms. All it needs is renovating and a gantry bridge from the Dingle Tunnel to drop to the Merseyrail network line beneath at the Herculaneum Dock. A cheap price to lift an area up by its bootstraps. They could in time extend the tunnel further inland from Dingle adding one or two stations - as was the original intention.

Thanks

[snappel]

Getting the Dingle underground rail Station back into use would re-generate that area, attracting developers - a few minutes into the centre and beyond. The station is still there underground complete with platforms. All it needs is renovating and a gantry bridge from the Dingle Tunnel to drop to the Merseyrail network line beneath at the Herculaneum Dock. A cheap price to lift an area up by its bootstraps. They could in time extend the tunnel further inland from Dingle adding one or two stations - as was the original intention.

I can't see that really paying off... but still, it's an idea. Is the garage that used to occupy the station site a few years ago still operational? The Subterranean Britannica guys managed to get a visit to the station site - if the garage is still there I might try contacting the owner.

[Max]

All you need to know is it's the Ghetto.

And I was born in a hospital around there that no longer exists.

So that makes me from the ghetto.

[snappel]

Max From Da Ghetto. Which hospital would that have been, the south Liverpool one in the heart of Toxteth? Forget the name of it now...

I happen to drive up Lodge Lane the other evening, and I've never seen such a huge mob of kids congregated on a street. Still, they appeared to be keeping to themselves and not causing any trouble... Funny how it only happens when it gets dark earlier...

[Max]

Max From Da Ghetto. Which hospital would that have been, the south Liverpool one in the heart of Toxteth? Forget the name of it now...

I happen to drive up Lodge Lane the other evening, and I've never seen such a huge mob of kids congregated on a street. Still, they appeared to be keeping to themselves and not causing any trouble... Funny how it only happens when it gets dark earlier...

Not sure, but my mum said it was in Toxteth.

You see more mob of kids on Granby!

[snappel]

You see more mob of kids on Granby!

Granby Street? Walked down there once, don't want to go back!

[Sloyne]

Which hospital would that have been, the south Liverpool one in the heart of Toxteth? Forget the name of it now

I think it might have been the Royal Southern Hospital which, if my memory serves me right, was located on Caryl Street and was opened sometime in the 186o's. I think it's forerunner the original 'Southern and Toxteth Hospital' which was located on Greenland Street, was opened sometime in the 1840's and I heard somewhere that it was the first public hospital opened by Florence Nightingale. Though I can't vouch for the veracity of that, maybe someone else can.

[shytalk]

Max is only 20 so it was probably Oxford St. Marernity Hospital, not exactly Toxteth but close by.

[Sloyne]

Max is only 20 so it was probably Oxford St. Marernity Hospital, not exactly Toxteth but cole by.

yes, your probably right, the Southern closed in 1979, I think.

Do you know if the old 'Liverpool Womens Hospital' at the corner of Catherine and Myrtle Streets was used as a maternity hospital?

[shytalk]

I don't think it was, I'll ask my sis next time I talk to her in about 2 weeks, she is going away today. She was an administrator there untill she retired about 5 years ago.