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    ...or 5 bulidings I wish we still had and

    without which the city is a lesser place...

    1. Overhead Railway.
    Structures like these become of great cities, and our one was indeed part of that

    vision. An awful loss not to still have it, and with the developments in the pipelines it would have become ever more relevant and ever more iconic. If I

    become a billionaire I will rebuild it! As was!!

    2. Customs House.
    Where that awful Halifax is on the Strand. Again, it was recoverable save for

    the historic age-old Liverpool lurgy of self-interested, bent petit-politicos.

    3. The Three Ugly Sisters.
    Structures like these are the mark of

    great cities. I thought they were part of what our city, what our docks were about. Only lack of vision or soul allowed them to blitzed. If they were still

    there the redevelopement uses for them would be pretty exciting.

    4. The Old St.Johns buildings.
    Seen them in pictures. They looked wonderful.

    Shame we lost that pile.

    5. Gettin rid of the tram network.
    Understandable at the time but really a disaster. Ooops!


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    ...or 5 bulidings I wish we still had and without which the city is a lesser

    place...


    Waterways, have you got any more?

    Can only Waterways answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The

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    ...or 5 bulidings I wish we still had and without which the city is a lesser place...

    1. Overhead Railway.
    Structures like

    these become of great cities, and our one was indeed part of that vision. An awful loss not to still have it, and with the developments in the pipelines it

    would have become ever more relevant and ever more iconic. If I become a billionaire I will rebuild it! As was!!
    A very sad loss.

    2. Customs House.
    Where that awful Halifax is on the Strand. Again, it was recoverable save for the historic age-old Liverpool

    lurgy of self-interested, bent petit-politicos.
    The building was repairable. It was only burnt out, not bombed. London wanted the Customs in the south, so Liverpool was raped again.

    3. The Three Ugly Sisters.
    Structures like these are the mark of great cities. I thought they were part of what our city, what our docks were about. Only lack of vision or soul allowed them to blitzed. If they were still there the redevelopement uses for them would be pretty exciting.
    I'm glad they went. I hated them. The power station was built on Clarence Dock, which still can be excavated.

    4. The Old St.Johns buildings.
    Seen them in pictures. They looked wonderful. Shame we lost that pile.

    5. Gettin rid of the tram network. Understandable at the time but really a disaster. Ooops!
    Most of the lines are still there.

    - The round theatre from the 1700s In Williamson Square (Union Cold Storage used it).

    - The Dukes Dock Brindley warehouses.

    - All the in-filled Docks in Liverpool and the Wirral.

    - The terraced row opposite Lime St station (the Guiness clock neon signs)

    - Sailors Home

    - The warehouses and buildings along the Strand near James St.

    etc.
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    I don't think the LOR or tram network really constitute 'buildings', but you've listed five good entities

    nonetheless.

    Not sure about the power station though - just look at the issues surrounding Battersea, it's a nightmare at the moment. Word on the

    street is that the original concrete chimneys are getting replaced with fibreglass replicas... Still, if they'd just kept the chimneys of the Clarence Dock

    station that would've remained a distinctive landmark.

    It would be nice to see more of the dockside warehouses/goods yards etc still around, but you

    can't keep everything, and thankfully we still have Albert and Stanley Docks as good examples of these kinds of sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    A very sad loss.



    The

    building was repairable. It was onky burnt out, not bombed. London wante the Customs in the south, so Liverpool was raped again.
    3. The

    Three Ugly Sisters.
    Structures like these are the mark of great cities. I thought they were part of what our city, what our docks were about. Only lack of

    vision or soul allowed them to blitzed. If they were still there the redevelopement uses for them would be pretty exciting.
    [/QUOTE]

    I'm glad they

    went. I hated them. The power station was built on Clarence Dock, which still can be excavated.



    Most of the lines are still there.

    -

    The round theatre from the 1700s In Williamson Square (Union Cold Storage used it).

    - The Dukes Dock Brindley warehouses.

    - All the in-filled

    Docks in Liverpool and the Wirral.

    - The terraced row opposite Lime St station (the Guiness clock neon signs)

    - Sailors Home

    - The

    warehouses and buildings along the Strand near James St.

    etc.[/QUOTE]

    The Old Hutte at Halewood - a medieval manorhouse of the Ireland family

    swept away when the Ford Factory was built

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    Another historic

    building that went was the David Lewis building. With modernisation what a fantastic hotel it could have been.
    You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Can only Waterways answer?
    Oh aye. Sorry about that, just that I've been quite enjoying

    Wat's postings for a while now. Always seem to learn stuff from our past I never knew.

    Got a bit of an obssession with the docks, as were, and the

    proper industrial scale buildings and environments which remain there.

    Does anyone have a ready pictorial archive of these former buildings? It would

    be nice to compile a pictorial top 50 or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    Another historic building that went was the David Lewis building. With modernisation what a

    fantastic hotel it could have been.
    Do you have a pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    Do you have a pic?
    Yes.

    Too many cinemas,

    churches and schools have gone.
    Apart from the buildings already mentioned, here are a few more that shouldn't have gone.
    The original frontage of the

    Cotton Exchange in Old Hall Street.
    Helliwell's Buildings in Castle Street.
    Any of the Tram Depots.
    Most of the terraced houses were needlessly

    demolished (North Liverpool has managed to keep a lot).
    The Children's Hospital in Myrtle Street.
    The Labour Exchange in Leece Street.
    The Owen

    Owen Warehouse in St Anne Street (but that was destroyed by fire).
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    - The round theatre from the

    1700s In Williamson Square (Union Cold Storage used it).

    - The Dukes Dock Brindley warehouses.

    - All the in-filled Docks in Liverpool and the

    Wirral.

    - The terraced row opposite Lime St station (the Guiness clock neon signs)

    - Sailors Home

    - The warehouses and buildings along

    the Strand near James St.

    etc.[/QUOTE]



    I'd love to see to pics of this stuff. I have seen the neon Guiness block and you're

    absolutely right, that was a proper city vista.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop

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    Does anyone have a ready pictorial archive of these former buildings? It would be nice to compile a pictorial top 50 or something like

    that.
    I'm doing my best to photograph as many of the remaining ones as possible (Stanley Dock, Royal Liverpool Infirmary, Heap Rice Mill, etc) before

    they change and lose their originality (see my website link below), but hopefully the structures will be preserved.

    I'm finding it quite hard to find

    'period' photos of a lot of places on the web - I think I should really pay a visit to the library and see what I can find there. Still, lots of old photos

    are kicking about, such as on the toxteth.net website.

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    ......oh, and Liverpool Castle/Tower guys!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    Does

    anyone have a ready pictorial archive of these former buildings? It would be nice to compile a pictorial top 50 or something like that.
    I

    don't know about a "ready pictorial archive", but I've got a lot of photos of Liverpool.
    They all need scanning.
    But I'd like to see what other

    people have got as well.
    Considering that there are a lot of photographers in this group, it would be good to see their photos of demolished buildings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    I don't know about

    a "ready pictorial archive", but I've got a lot of photos of Liverpool.
    They all need scanning.
    But I'd like to see what other people have got as

    well.
    Considering that there are a lot of photographers in this group, it would be good to see their photos of demolished buildings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    I

    don't know about a "ready pictorial archive", but I've got a lot of photos of Liverpool.
    They all need scanning.
    But I'd like to see what other

    people have got as well.
    Considering that there are a lot of photographers in this group, it would be good to see their photos of demolished

    buildings.
    Where was that Lewis Hostel DG?

    I suppose the motivation for threads like this isn't just wishing we these incredible

    buildings back with us, (and to be honest I really do wish we had some of them) it's also vital if we as a city come to demand the same high-level

    production values from the developers in today's and tomorrow's built environment, as those best-practice examples that went before..

    Also, I'm a

    huge fan of great modern architecture but I also wish we could talk seriously about actually rebuilding buildings occaisionally when to do so brings back

    that which was lost. Like identity. Like history. Like just... wonderful buildings.

    I literally would replace-pretty much exactly-the OHR, for

    instance.

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    I always liked the run down church on the corner of

    Catherine and Canning streets but its knocked down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?

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    "I always liked the run down church on the corner of Catherine and

    Canning streets but its knocked down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?"


    .....haven't but the people to blame for that are

    the council and the 'developers' local slumlords Lacy Roofing for that heap of kaka they've bequethed the city with. Slap bang in the middle of the

    Georgian quarter too. Thanks lads.
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    I know there's got to be a balance between new and old and that

    nothing lasts forever etc. but that block of flats is so characterless and sticks out like a sore thumb around that area...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorhemp View Post
    I always liked the run down church on the corner of Catherine and Canning streets but its knocked

    down and flats built there now. Anyone got a photo of that?
    October 1986.
    Not one of my best pics, but better than nothing!
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    Cheers - when was that taken? I

    remember the building getting more and more delapidated and then a fire did the damage in your shot but when was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorhemp View Post
    Cheers - when was that taken? I remember the

    building getting more and more delapidated and then a fire did the damage in your shot but when was it?
    The photo was taken in October 1986,

    not long after the fire.
    Some gardens in Canning Street have tiles and carved stonework from the church (which was built between 1840 & 1856).
    It was

    demolished in 1997.
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    20 years ago - I can hardly believe it!

    I was at Hope St. college (City/Central it kept changing names) doing a City and Guilds Photography then - I may have some shots of it stored away in my

    loft.

    Thanks for the info and photo.

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    The Sir Edwin Lutyens 'Liverpool Cathedral', it was never built so I'm not sure if it counts, but it was planned to be the biggest cathedral

    on the planet with a height of 158m!


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    Looks really Moscova to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twiz View Post
    The Sir Edwin Lutyens 'Liverpool

    Cathedral', it was never built so I'm not sure if it counts, but it was planned to be the biggest cathedral on the planet with a height of

    158m!
    The crypt was built. WW2 got in the way.
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    I was a choirboy for

    the cathedral and we'd sing a weekly gig in that crypt.

    Fridays I think it was..

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    Where was that Lewis Hostel

    DG?
    Great George Street, corner of Nile Street, near Upper Parliament Street.

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    I can just about remember the David

    Lewis. I have a vague memory of going in there when I was about 13. I seem to recall that there was a cafe and we went in there for a drink and a snack.


    Is that right or am I dreaming it ? Was there a restaurant in there ?

    Any idea when and why it was demolished ? Was the building in disrepair ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    I can just about remember the David Lewis. I have a vague memory of going in there when I was about 13. I seem to recall

    that there was a cafe and we went in there for a drink and a snack.
    Is that right or am I dreaming it ? Was there a restaurant in there ?

    Any

    idea when and why it was demolished ? Was the building in disrepair ?
    I can remember being taken to see a Shakespeare play there on a school

    outing while I was attending the Morrison Secondary Modern in Rose Lane. this would have been circa 1962-1963. I don't recall there being a restaurant in

    the building although there might have been and I just didn't see it.

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