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    I do myself Kev,sometimes you just spot something like this and I think a thread like this helps to keep them all in one place for easy access.Some are more interesting than others but what this thread will eventually show is there's more to Liverpool than meets the eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    The Royal Navy battleship "The Prince of Wales" was adopted by the city of Liverpool whos citizens had raised the full building cost of £10 Million-a staggering £280 Million in todays money.

    The ship was built at Cammell Lairds between 1937/41 was with HMS Hood when when the ship was sunk by the enemy battleship "Bismarck" off Iceland in May.

    During the action,two shells from The Prince of Wales damaged the Bismarcks fuel tanks.This caused a large oil slick which led to the German warship being hunted down and sunk.

    On December 8th The Prince of Wales left Singapore with 4 destroyers but with no air cover,two days later it was attacked and sunk.Although the ship is now a designated war grave,it was feared the bell might be stolen by unauthorised divers,the bell from the Prince of Wales in on display at the Merseyside Maritime Museum.

    A Liverpool link to the sinking of the Legendary Bismarck.
    The ship was pushed into to service because of the Bismarck and went into battle with some Lairds fitters on board. The Bismarck also hit the PoW.
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    Thanks for the additional information John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Thanks for the additional information John.
    "At the time of the declaration of war the Prince of Wales was fitting out in Liverpool. The ship was damaged in August 1940 during the Liverpool Blitz. She suffered one near miss that exploded between her port side and the wall of the basin in which she lay, severely buckling and springing her outer plates in this area. "

    "Shortly after her commissioning, Prince of Wales joined HMS Hood in stalking and attacking the German battleship Bismarck and the accompanying heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen. The Prince of Wales sailed with civilian technicians still aboard. "

    "The Germans shifted fire to Prince of Wales, making three 15" and four 8" hits that seriously damaged the British ship. She was troubled throughout the action by gun functioning problems, but still managed to hit Bismarck with three shells before her own damage forced her to turn away and break off the battle. One of the three British 14" projectiles hit Bismarck's hull forward, flooding some of the German ship's bow compartments. Another hit low and amidships, bringing more water into the ship."

    http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/e...41/bismk-c.htm
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    "Anyone Who Had a Heart." had already been a hit for Dionne Warwick, but Cilla's version shot to #1 in Britain and remains the biggest selling single by a female artist in the history of British popular music.

    I know she gets ****ged off a lot but I like this about her if nothing else,this can be added to us having the first female to hit the number 1 spot Lita Rosa,the most number 1's for any city in the World which was featured in the Guiness book of records,the country's no 1 rock n roll star Billy Fury,the first and only act to occupy the top 5 positions of the American charts The Beatles,Never before had the first three debut singles by a performer all reached the top spot until Gerry and the Pacemakers managed it(the feat would not be duplicated until Frankie Goes To Hollywood did it in the 1980s,the biggest black act of the 70's the Real Thing and Merseybeat being responsible for changing popular culture and introducing Britsh bands to the lucrative American market for the first time,we rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    "Anyone Who Had a Heart." had already been a hit for Dionne Warwick,
    It hadn't. It never charted.

    but Cilla's version shot to #1 in Britain and remains the biggest selling single by a female artist in the history of British popular music.

    I know she gets ****ged off a lot but I like this about her if nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    It hadn't. It never charted.
    Blame the site I copy and pasted that info off John not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Blame the site I copy and pasted that info off John not me.
    http://www.everyhit.com/
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    The situation as I understand it is that "Anyone Who Had a Heart" by Burt Bacharach and Hal David had already been a hit for Dionne Warwick in the United States, but Cilla Black covered it in the United Kingdom, as often happened in those days, British artists recording a hit by an American recording artist. As noted, Cilla's version shot to #1 in Britain.

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    Interesting fact is that Kev is really from Wavertree being born in the old hospital that is now Asda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    The situation as I understand it is that "Anyone Who Had a Heart" by Burt Bacharach and Hal David had already been a hit for Dionne Warwick in the United States, but Cilla Black covered it in the United Kingdom, as often happened in those days, British artists recording a hit by an American recording artist. As noted, Cilla's version shot to #1 in Britain.

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    Yep. Dionne Warwick had success in the United States, but wasn't released here. Most people had never heard of the Dionne Warwick's version.

    Cilla Black had a hit with That Lovin Feelin and it charted at the same time as the Righteous Brothers version. Both in the top 5 I think at the same time.
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    Dionne Warwick was peeved about it. You can't blame her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Dionne Warwick was peeved about it. You can't blame her.
    Dionne Warwick's voice is one of the all-time greats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Yep. Dionne Warwick had success in the United States, but wasn't released here. Most people had never heard of the Dionne Warwick's version.

    Cilla Black had a hit with That Lovin Feelin and it charted at the same time as the Righteous Brothers version. Both in the top 5 I think at the same time.
    My Mum always had a preference for uptempo music and she could knock out a mean boogie woogie on the piano we had in the parlour of our house in Hughes St! (just thought of a new thread!) However, one her favourite songs was The Righteous Brothers You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
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    Ernie Shavers the man who in 1977 went 15 punishing rounds with Muhammad Ali at Madison Square Garden, New York, now works a couple of nights a week on the door at Yates' Wine Lodge in Queen Square, Liverpool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post


    Ernie Shavers the man who in 1977 went 15 punishing rounds with Muhammad Ali at Madison Square Garden, New York, now works a couple of nights a week on the door at Yates' Wine Lodge in Queen Square, Liverpool.
    You're kidding! Wow, I never knew that. He was a cracking boxer. Deffo have to get a pic of him. Nice one Paul

    BTW, did you know John H Stracey lives on Wirral? I only found out a couple of months back when I was chatting to Ricky Tomlinson's agent who does a bit of work for him.

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    Dave he's really pleasant he holds the door open for you and everything which to me feels a bit mad considering who he is,if you're lucky enough to see him don't forget to post your pictures here.

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    When Wayne Rooney and Francis Jeffers led the line for England in a friendly a couple of years back they become the first strikers to play for an England team at the same time having attended the same school,that school was De La Salle in Croxteth.


    Another footballing first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    When Wayne Rooney and Francis Jeffers led the line for England in a friendly a couple of years back they become the first strikers to play for an England team at the same time having attended the same school,that school was De La Salle in Croxteth.


    Another footballing first.
    Talking of which I caught somewhere that Wayne Rooney is from Toxteth. So should he be in the Famous Scousers from Toxteth thread? Or did the person who thought that have Croxteth mixed up with Toxteth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Talking of which I caught somewhere that Wayne Rooney is from Toxteth. So should he be in the Famous Scousers from Toxteth thread? Or did the person who thought that have Croxteth mixed up with Toxteth?

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    Yes it's definitely Croxteth,they done a whole documentary on him once banging on about his poor upbringing and the Toxteth riots etc and he's not even from there. just another excuse to show Liverpool in a bad light in my opinion.

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    Everton de Viña del Mar, is a Chilean football club based in the city of Viña del Mar. The club was founded June 24, 1909 (named after Everton F.C. of England) and plays in the first division of the Chilean football league. Their home games are played at the Sausalito stadium, which has a capacity of approximately 25,000 seats.

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    There is a Liverpool FC in Urguguay. They were named after several English teams toured there and it was decided to opt for Liverpool as like Montevideo it was a port. They play in black and blue stripes at the 8000 capacity Belvedere stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    There is a Liverpool FC in Urguguay. They were named after several English teams toured there and it was decided to opt for Liverpool as like Montevideo it was a port. They play in black and blue stripes at the 8000 capacity Belvedere stadium.
    I didn't know that Ste nice one it was inevitable there would be one somewhere.

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    Whereas Everton are one of the major clubs in Chile Liverpool are very much in the shadow of the 2 Uruguayan giants of Nacional and Penarol. They havent won a thing in the history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Everton de Viña del Mar, is a Chilean football club based in the city of Viña del Mar. The club was founded June 24, 1909 (named after Everton F.C. of England) and plays in the first division of the Chilean football league. Their home games are played at the Sausalito stadium, which has a capacity of approximately 25,000 seats.
    Like GP the stadium has held a world cup semi-final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Everton de Viña del Mar, is a Chilean football club based in the city of Viña del Mar.
    "Vina" is a suburb of Valparaiso. I have watched Everton (The Rouleteiros) play O'Higgins and a local derby against Wanderers of Valparaiso. I love the stadium, small but, if the game gets boring the views from the stands are fantastic.

    I have also watched Liverpool play Danubio and the team from Fray Bentos (forgot it's name) in Uruguay.
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    Hi all

    There are a number of football teams in Australia named after Liverpool. For example in New South Wales alone, there is:

    Liverpool Albion
    Liverpool Bossy
    Liverpool City
    Liverpool Olympic
    Liverpool United

    See http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Clubs/ClubIndex.html#L for more info and links.

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    Bob Marley's dad was an Army Captain from Liverpool.

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