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    I thought this would make a good thread because I'd like to think I could learn

    something I didn't already know,I'll go first does anyone else have any?

    Merchant Taylors give F.C Barcelona their football strip colours

    The

    Witty brothers; Arthur Witty, played for FC Barcelona in the first Copa del Rey final and later served as club president between 1903 and 1905. Ernest Witty,

    younger brother of above, also played for FC Barcelona. Was also a founding member of the Real Club de Tenis de Barcelona and a Spanish national tennis

    champion over a number of years.The Witty brothers also modelled the legendary FC Barcelona colours, the blaugrana, after the original colours used by

    Merchant Taylors' rugby team.


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    Wow that is amazing^^^
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    another... did you know, there are more black cabs in liverpool than anywhere else outside london?
    You wouldnt think so on a weekend night
    Don't believe everything you hear..... Just everything you say.

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    And all of them think they own the road
    " If you know your history, then you would know where you coming from".


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    Liverpool. There are more museums, theatres and galleries,

    than any other city region outside London,- including Tate Liverpool, the Walker, Merseyside Maritime Museum, Liverpool Empire and the Lady Lever Art

    Gallery.
    Liverpool is the most filmed in City outside of London, such films as the 51st
    State, The Hunt For Red October, A Letter To Brezhnev. In The

    Name Of The
    Father, Hilary And Jackie, being filmed there, to name but just a few.

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    Excellent

    lads here's one,Robert Morris was born here and at 15 years old went to America and with his father became the countries first leading merchant.He was one

    of the leaders of the revolution.He financed the American revolution,financed the war,got George Washington's army out of bankrupcy twice,and took over

    personally provision of the army because nobody else knew how to.He was the most astonishing man with phenomenal wealth.



    http://www.libertystory.net/LSACTIONROBERTMORRIS.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    I thought this would make a good thread because I'd like to think I could learn something I

    didn't already know,I'll go first does anyone else have any?

    Merchant Taylors give F.C Barcelona their football strip colours

    The Witty

    brothers; Arthur Witty, played for FC Barcelona in the first Copa del Rey final and later served as club president between 1903 and 1905. Ernest Witty,

    younger brother of above, also played for FC Barcelona. Was also a founding member of the Real Club de Tenis de Barcelona and a Spanish national tennis

    champion over a number of years.The Witty brothers also modelled the legendary FC Barcelona colours, the blaugrana, after the original colours used by

    Merchant Taylors' rugby team.

    Merchant Taylors? There are a few of them around the country.
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    Liverpool Astronomical Society is one of the oldest such societies in the world and the forerunner of the British Astronomical Association and the

    "Liverpool telescope" is the World's largest robotic telescope and is situated in the Canary

    Islands.

    http://www.pparc.ac.uk/Nw/Press/robotic_telescope.asp

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    Heres something that not many of you know.

    http://tinyurl.com/y9bb3t
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Merchant Taylors? There are a few of them around the country.
    Wikipedia is

    crediting the Crosby school with the Barca strip, although I once read a book on Barca's history and I seem to remember it hinted a school in another

    location was responsible.

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    In the 17th & 18th

    centuries 40% of all the worlds international shipping sailed into Liverpool laden with every thing the human mind can conceive of and travelling from EVERY

    PART OF THE WORLD on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    In the 17th & 18th centuries 40% of all the worlds international shipping sailed into Liverpool laden with every thing

    the human mind can conceive of and travelling from EVERY PART OF THE WORLD on a regular basis.
    And at that time it was also said that, New York ships

    trade with Liverpool, Liverpool ships trade with the world.

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    Great Sloyne,could you tell us that story were the Liverpool Kings Regiment fought back the

    Americans and helped to keep Canada's independence,the Battle of Lundy Lane was it? I remember you talking about it on the other forum and I was facinated

    but a lot of the facts escape me now,would you mind writing a little bit about it?

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    Hello

    Paul

    This is a bit that I know about since the War of 1812 is one of my specialties. I believe the 8th King's Liverpool Regiment was at Fort York

    (later Toronto) although I am not sure they were at Lundy's Lane, otherwise known as the Battle of Bridgewater or the Battle of Niagara Falls, July 25,

    1814. The battle was fought on the hill overlooking the famous falls in a location that is now completely built up. It was a night battle that was a

    stalemate though both sides claimed victory. It was the bloodiest battle ever fought on Canadian soil, with each side losing about the same number of

    menó878 British and 860 American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    I believe the 8th King's Liverpool Regiment was at Fort York (later Toronto) although I am not sure

    they were at Lundy's Lane
    To bolster the meagre, mostly Canadian militia and Indian forces at Niagara, the Kingsmen marched from Fort York to Niagara

    arriving at dusk on the evening of July 24, 1814. The American force, led by Generals Jacob Brown and Winfield Scott, attacked the British regiment, the

    Kings Liverpool, while they where bivouacing behind the cemetery on Lundy's Lane. The battle raged throughout the hot a humid night with many casaulties on

    both sides. Close to dawn the fighting abated and when daylight came it could be seen that the Americans had left the field to the British and were in full

    retreat across the Niagara River. This was the last and most decisive battle of the War of 1812 and was the battle that broke the will of the invading

    Americans. The Americans, in attacking Canada, sought to take advantage of Britains pre-occupation with Napoleon. After this battle Britain was able to

    concentrate on defeating the French Emperor Napoleon Boneparte and did defeat him the following year at Waterloo in Belgium.

    It was for the Battle of

    Lundy's Lane that the King, George III, awarded the Kings Liverpool Regiment the "White Horse of Hanover" to wear as a honour in thier cap.

    PS:

    Artifacts from this battle can be seen at the small museum dedicated to the battle in Niagara Falls, Ontario. A letter writen by one of the 'Kings

    Liverpool' soldiers to his sweetheart in Liverpool, a Miss Dolly Lunt, is/was on display in the National Museum of Canada in Ottawa.
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    Liverpool's museums and galleries are the

    only ones outside of the four British capitals (London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Belfast) designated 'National' due their importance to British heritage.

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    Thanks Sloyne/Chris for that they're some stories that we can be proud of has anyone got

    anymore?

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    Hi Paul

    Thanks, Paul. We probably need a page for Liverpool dragoon commander and MP

    General Sir Banastre Tarleton. As a lieutenant colonel in the British Army he was commander of the "British

    Legion" made up of American loyalists in the southern campaigns of the American Revolution. He remains a controversial figure in the United States for his

    supposed brutal tactics, most famously at the alleged massacre at Waxhaws in South Carolina. Another thing that makes him controversial is that as MP,

    coming from a slave-trading family, he defended slavery in Parliament. Thus the Tarleton name came up at the time of the recent proposal rename Liverpool

    streets that had connections to slavery, there being both a Tarleton Street and a Banastre Street in Liverpool. His father had been mayor of Liverpool in

    the 1760's and both his father and brother engaged in the slave trade. He was also in the news because a descendent recently auctioned off some

    American militia flags captured by Tarleton through Sotheby's in New York for a phenomenal

    price.

    Best regards

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    The Hollywood film The

    Patriot also showed him in a bad light I seem to remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul

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    The Hollywood film The Patriot also showed him in a bad light I seem to remember.
    Yes the fictional character of Tavington, played by

    Liverpool-born actor Jason Isaacs was based on Tarleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi Paul

    Thanks, Paul. We probably need a page for Liverpool dragoon commander and MP

    General Sir Banastre Tarleton.
    Yes Chris and more. I know a little (very little) of this mans biography

    and would appreciate hearing more. If you have the time, why not start a thread on Tarleton? Thanks in advance.

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    The World's* largest ever

    outdoor gig for a single** artist- Wacko at Aintree.

    *I think it is the World's rather than just Europe's
    **Could be the largest for a 'solo'

    artist rather than for just one act-ok I'm bein lazy here and should check the facts on his site which is where I got the info from but I know it's still

    the World's largest gig for one of those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    The World's* largest ever outdoor gig for a single** artist- Wacko at Aintree.

    *I think it is the World's rather than just Europe's
    **Could be the largest for a 'solo' artist rather than for just one act-ok I'm bein lazy here and should check the facts on his site which is where I got the info from but I know it's still the World's largest gig for one of those two.
    I think it was for a solo singer Jean Michel Jarre plays to millions,I think Robbie Williams has well beat that now.

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    Candyman

    Based on a Liverpudlian urban legend and first put into story form in Clive Barker's short story "The Forbidden," in the book In the Flesh. The original story was set in Liverpool.

    So Candyman was originally set here.

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    The Royal Navy battleship "The Prince of Wales" was adopted by the city of Liverpool whos citizens had raised the full building cost of £10 Million-a staggering £280 Million in todays money.

    The ship was built at Cammell Lairds between 1937/41 was with HMS Hood when when the ship was sunk by the enemy battleship "Bismarck" off Iceland in May.

    During the action,two shells from The Prince of Wales damaged the Bismarcks fuel tanks.This caused a large oil slick which led to the German warship being hunted down and sunk.

    On December 8th The Prince of Wales left Singapore with 4 destroyers but with no air cover,two days later it was attacked and sunk.Although the ship is now a designated war grave,it was feared the bell might be stolen by unauthorised divers,the bell from the Prince of Wales in on display at the Merseyside Maritime Museum.

    A Liverpool link to the sinking of the Legendary Bismarck.

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    Hi Steve, Yes the Kings Regiment served many years in Canada with two Battalions the 1st Bat King's Regiment and the 2nd Battalion. They where at the thick of it and did fight at Niagara. So much so that the regiment was awarded the battle honour NIAGARA.
    Danny

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    Default Liverpool Saves The Pre Raphaelites

    Often forgotten, is the fact that in the mid 19th century, Liverpool was a key supporter of radical artistic movements, such as the Pre Raphaelites (considered cosy as a hearthside rug today; but in their day considered as weird and offensive as anything by Damien Hirst & co).

    In the early 1850s, The Pre Raphaelites - in particular William Holman Hunt - were at the point of giving up and getting regular day jobs, when the Liverpool Academy kicked in and awarded Hunt their annual £50 prize, just as he was on the verge of destitution. It saved his career.

    Support for Pre Raphaelite painting over the following years eventually split the academy, and ultimately lead to its breakup. But Hunt never forgot his debt to Liverpool - and many years later, allowed the Walker Art Gallery to buy his painting: 'The Triumph of the Innocents' for a knockdown price, as a token of his gratitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lierbag View Post
    Often forgotten, is the fact that in the mid 19th century, Liverpool was a key supporter of radical artistic movements, such as the Pre Raphaelites (considered cosy as a hearthside rug today; but in their day considered as weird and offensive as anything by Damien Hirst & co).

    In the early 1850s, The Pre Raphaelites - in particular William Holman Hunt - were at the point of giving up and getting regular day jobs, when the Liverpool Academy kicked in and awarded Hunt their annual £50 prize, just as he was on the verge of destitution. It saved his career.

    Support for Pre Raphaelite painting over the following years eventually split the academy, and ultimately lead to its breakup. But Hunt never forgot his debt to Liverpool - and many years later, allowed the Walker Art Gallery to buy his painting: 'The Triumph of the Innocents' for a knockdown price, as a token of his gratitude.


    Myself,,,,,,,,, I was spellbound by them but could never take to Millais with that 'Scapegoat' or was that Holman Hunt ?

    To me it was a time of love and romance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    Myself,,,,,,,,, I was spellbound by them but could never take to Millais with that 'Scapegoat.'

    To me it was a time of love and romance.
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

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    do you think this is a good thread to ask if carl jung actually visited liverpool or just dreamed he did when he mentions the pool of life. what do you all think of his dream????

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    Very interesting thread!

    I'm impressed by everyone's knowledge!

    @Sloyne: Do you really mean "Scouserphobe" (hater) or do you mean "Scouserphile" (lover)?

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