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    To Jackie! Did'nt drink in the 'Vic" Jackie, but as an 'old Garstonian' wondered if you knew that the Woodcutters had a website too, It might be of interest to you, See:http://www.garston-woodcutters.co.uk/ 'Cheers


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    hi all......loved the stories...so here`s one i can share with you about nelly mallon......i went to nellies funeral about 7 years ago.....this is a true story about nelly and her friend flo whilst on a trip to Ostend with the "duck" pub(james st swan).
    my wife and i were given the room next to nelly and flo in a hotel in ostend.This was about 10 years ago and both women were abt 75ish..So being only 46 then,i carried both their bags up to the 1st floor room.Making sure they had settled in ok,i went next door to our room to unpack...5 minutes later i heard this unbelievable BANG from their room and imediately rushed in to see what had happened.Both nelly and flo were lying on the bed laughing hysterically...Nelly had brought one of those plug in hot water heating pokers you use to make a cup of tea...when their 2 cups of water had boiled,nelly put the poker(still plugged in)in the toilet pan...well unbeknown to any of us,the toilet system in the hotel had a small electrical charge in it which actually flushed the toilet....hence the 2 electrical charges met...and nelly literally blew the toilet in half...there was water everywhere and the toilet pan was split in TWO...i was shaken with the BANG and the state of the toilet.......they just laid on the bed and cried with laughter.....
    so the hotel had to fit a new toilet in their room..........just a little funny story about nelly mallon.I live in garston,and my gg grandfather 1st moved to garston from neston in 1871.........so i have many,many ancestors who were Garstonians........regards...allan
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    Hi,

    As i'm only 25 i definitely can't help u but ask ur dad if he remembers an Agnes Edwards who is my Maternal Grandmother. She had 5 older brothers Barney edwards and Joesph, Michael, Peter and John Cummings. If any of this information is of any use i'll gladly talk to my Nan. My Mum's father's name was Cecil Abbey and he had a number of brothers and sisters Leonard, Alfred, William, Sylvia and Elizabeth Abbey who would all have been born in 30's-40's and also were raised Under the Bridge.

    Tina
    PS My Nana was born and raised in Chesterton Street No 102 (the 1 with the garden running down the side of the house)

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    Hi Destiny13, welcome to the forum. An other Garstonian eh (me too)? What are your thoughts on Garston? Here's the thread.



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    I'm a bit hazy about my family I have to say - on my birth cert it says my parents were living in Vulcan Street (Ray Jones and Susan Jones - any info about either would be nice!!) in 1972 and that my dad was a scrap metal merchant. As they were divorced when I was 3 I dont remember much about him - I know he moved out to Runcorn (where I always assumed he was from - until I saw the birth cert!).

    Then my step-father was Billy Finn and this is where I consider my home to be - the house on the corner of King Street and Saunby Street opposite the Vic pub. We lived there with Muriel (Mo) Finn whose husband was Patrick Finn, he died around 1977. The Kilgallons were next door and the Sweeneys 2 doors up, the Scurrys lived up the road.

    My earliest memory is sitting outside the pub in Window Lane (not the Woodcutters) doing penny for the guy...made a couple of quid as well! I think I spent most of it on the shortbread biscuits from the bakery in window lane and a strange dutch white chocolate bar...

    Does any one remember the old lad who used to have the alsatians over in the pallet yard by the all weather football pitch? We used to go in there and steal wood for the bonfire and he used to set them on us!!

    Also the day they blew up the big concrete building next to the gasworks and the masonry shot over and hit the fella standing next too me, splitting his head wide open (we were watching it in the parking place between Byron Street and Banks Road - very wise!)

    What else....Miss Abbey in school and the headmaster (who I met years later making a boat from scratch), playing football for Banks Road (I was the goalkeeper for 2 years), going off to Colamendy for a week in the summer and listening to tales down one of the mines (scary!)

    I always remember John Aldridge turning up to visit his parents when he was playing for Newport/Oxford, he had a Escort XR3i black with a thin red stripe on it - the coolest car ever!

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    Hi Scouse

    I remember Johnny potter and that dog very well we were terrified of him I too grew up in york street then king street my family were from garston. Paddy Walsh was my grandad and by all accounts he was a rouge.

    My dad used to drink in the vic he is Paul Mccabe and was there when bridie and manny ran the vic.

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    Evening everyone,

    my grandmother was born and brought up in York Street. She moved to Scotland in the 1950's after she married my grandad. Her parents when first wed lived at 42 Chesterton Street, before moving round the corner to York Street her dad Joseph was a labourer at the Bobbin works.
    We went back for a visit in the 1980,s but her end of York Street was wasteland but she recognised lots of other places.

    Can I just say I love this site all the stories are great.

    Donna x

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    Hi Donna, my nan worked in the bobbin works...
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    Hi Donna,
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    Hi Donna I went to Blessed John Almond although not under the Bridge most of the pupils were I also worked under the Bridge in the Tan Yards and Kings Brewery next to the bottle works.I know quite a few people around there a mate of mine died a few years back. I also lost a very good friend from Chesterton street when he was a lad. There was a club called the Blue I sometimes had a pint there. However under the Brige is out of the way so I havent been there in years apart from when being on the 80.
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    Hello everyone,

    the one thing I always remember my nan telling me was about how everyone stuck together in the 'olden days'!
    And a story that always made us laugh was when her brother John (married a lady called Kitty from Old Swan and emigrated to OZ) was about 14 and he was caught in the outside cludgie having a fag his mum ran for the priest as he was more fearful that their father! Can't imagine that happening nowadays.

    Donna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donna View Post
    Evening everyone,

    my grandmother was born and brought up in York Street. She moved to Scotland in the 1950's after she married my grandad. Her parents when first wed lived at 42 Chesterton Street, before moving round the corner to York Street her dad Joseph was a labourer at the Bobbin works.
    We went back for a visit in the 1980,s but her end of York Street was wasteland but she recognised lots of other places.

    Can I just say I love this site all the stories are great.

    Donna x
    Donna,
    I'm trying to find out about these surnames. Revans/Parry/Ashcroft/Parry/Stanton/Pernaveau. They all lived at 81 York St between 1902 and 2008. I'm especially interested in Ella Pernaveau/Stanton.

    Walter

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    Hello Walter,

    My nan and her family lived in York street for approx 20 years I can't recall the house number, their surname was Byrne. She never mentioned any of the names you are looking for.

    Sorry.

    Donna

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    Hi Donna,

    Thanks for the reply, about a month ago I got some relatives names and since then have been able to build up an inriguing story. Illegitimate births and disappearing husbands second families bringing in Denmark Canada and USA. So I was trying to confirm a few things.

    Walter

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    Hi Kev,
    Sorry to be an "old Fogy" but I dont use my card other than for
    BMD certs, so if you could let me have an address I can send a
    Donation to I would be much obliged.
    " Under the Bridge"
    Kev I wonder if anyone can recall a cobler just under the bridge
    on the Left hand side heading for Anglo Blackwells.
    I think he either had a false leg or he had been quite badly injured,
    and I think he was Known as Ted this would be late 30s early 40s
    and was possibly a relation of mine.
    Great site I've found here.

    Cheer's,

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    Hello there, what a fantastic post, thanks very much. My nan and grandad are sadly both no longer with us but were both Garstonians, my nan working in the Bobbin Works from the age of 12 I think. I will have a word with some people I know and get back to you.

    Welcome and thanks for your support!!!

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    Hi there, How you all bring old Garston alive. I've never been there but have an Anne Richardson born there 1838 d/o James, a mariner, and Ann (nee Carter) Annie junior's sisters were Margaret Carter Richardson, Eliza and Alice Carter Richardson. Anne was my 2x g grandmother. Her Mum was Ann Carter, d/o Thomas. Her second marriage was to a Wainwright.
    I have now done a lot more research on the Carter line and Ann's father was Thomas Carter, her mother Alice Davies. Even a couple of generations later the family were still going back to Garston for baptisms. I have Annie Richardson marrying Samuel Foster and then their son Samuel married Maggie Annie Louisa. Most of the kids from these two marriages were baptised in St Michael's. I'm descended from Samuel senior's oldest son Thomas Frederick Foster. I have lots of information on the Carters of Garston, not just my own so can help if anyone needs it. Any connections out there? Flower
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    Hello Garstonians

    reseaching my family tree and looking for any information on the Airey family who lived in the Station House which was located at the top of James Street. I remember the house vaguely, it was formerly the ticket office for Church Road Station which was closed in 1939. My Grandfather was James Airey and he worked on Garston Docks.

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    My grandad percy Holmes was bought up by the Fidler Family in Canterbury Street His Uncle Bill Holmes was a shoemender/cobbler and worked from a shed at the back of the Fidler household at no 2 Canterbury Street. He died in the 1950's. Percy Holmes was blinded in WW1 and often returned to Garston (from his home in Surrey) to visit his many friends/relatives there up until 1960's. Bel Preston had a drapers shop at no. 29 King Street from the 1940's-1970 it was called Vanity Fair at one time. I can remember coming to stay with Bel, Cess Mike and Pam many times during 50's 60's.
    If anyone has any memories of Bill Holmes or Bel Preston I would love to hear from them.

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    Hi Celiatoo,
    hopefully,some of the Yo "Mudmen" can help!

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    Hi Jackie, we remember that terrible accident that killed your Dad. My mum worked in the Woodcutters with your Mum, Tina. How is your Mum doing now. Would be interested to hear how she is.

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    Tippo.....would you be a Tipping from Garston ? ....allan

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    I just discovered this site and I should have found it years ago. My mother's family were from Garston, 70 Window lane. My grandparents were Matthew and Bridget Malone. My mum, Lily was one of many children, Jackie, Terry, May, Matthew, Peggy are all I can remember. I spent lots of time in Window Lane, under the bridge, turn left and then right and a few years ago before mum died I took her back. She loved it, we had a running commentary on who lived were. We called at the shops opposite number 70 and sure enough she met somebody she knew. Lily was born just around the corner at 84 Vulcan Street I don't think its been there for years. My memories of my gran are that she always had a house full of people. She could read anything, hands, heads, tea leaves etc.
    Just the other day I was telling my wife about the land mine that fell on the gas holder and sure enough its related on this site. I remember the baths and I think, "the showfield" opposite. I wonder does anyone remember my mums family.
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    Not a "Mudman" myself Billy,but hi,and welcome to Yo!

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    Hi Billy! welcome to Yo. I too remember the landmine falling on the Gas Holder. went to Banks Rd school at the time, which also received a bomb (unexploded) in the boiler house I think, and remember having to have classes in various peoples homes whilst the school was closed up. Can't say I knew the Malone family but probably encountered some, or all, of them at some stage especially at The Baths, Saturday night dances there, were very popular after the war. Cheers

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    Hiya Bill ....asked my Aunty Irene....she`s 88 and was born in Otway Street
    Matty Malone who married Bridget McCauley ?....so I checked the www.freebmd.org.uk site and true enough ...1911....
    she says she remembers Bridie (Bridgit ) Malone well ....so ...if my Aunty was born 1922 Bridgit would have been about 30 -33 ...I presume when aunty was 11 Bridgit would be 40 ish....do you know whether she had her own shop ?....Aunty says she remembers her either owning or running the "sweet shop" in Window Lane...which from 67 Otway Street would be 25 yards.....
    anyway...I remember Jackie Malone .are we talking about a man here named Jackie..if I`m right he only died about 8 years ago ???....am I correct....he was known better by his nickname....the skull........allan

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    Thanks Allan...... you're spot on, Bridie and Matty are my Grandparents. Your Aunty Irene has a good memory, I'm sure my Ma Lily told me that Bridie worked in the shop over the road in Window Lane. matty spent a lot of time standing outside of the pub, was it called the Lord Raglan or something like that.It was so sad about Jackie, he spent time in Canada and the USA. We lost touch with him, but out of the blue he called my sister and asked would Lily come to see him. I took her and knocked on the door for ages, no reply, Lil wanted to leave, very disappointed. Then I went round the back, opened the gate and saw a man with his back to me. As he turned round I said, Uncle Jackie and he said, hello Bill. I last saw him about 50 years ago. Well, we had a good couple of hours chatting. We had both been to sea and both had an interest in tall ships. Sadly, I only met him once more when I went to visit a couple of weeks later. He died two weeks after my visit. I was pleased that we had the short time that we had.
    Thanks again Allan.

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    The Lord Raglan is spot on...YOU have a good memory as well Billy....allan

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    Hi Flower, My tree has Carters in it ! I am sure there is a Margaret Carter, if I am not mistaken I think she married into the Ashcrofts. My Great Grandad was Stanley Ashcroft. I am sure this is the same family link. xxxxx

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    Hello. Everyone. Firstly, May I apologize for 'Jumping in' here. I dearly wanted to begin my own thread, but can not figure out how to do so. I joined this site apox half hour ago because, like Merseymay, My Family, on my Mum's side were from under the bridge in Garston. & I have been looking for some information & stories to share. When My Mum was alive she would tell me stories about Gandolfo's Milk Bar & the Idle Hour, Queing up outside of Hulme's cake shop in the lane for pies. She also told me so many wonderful personal stories. for example, apparently, she had a parrot that could imitate the sound of almost anything. This bird would sit on the neighbours fence & imitate the sound of the tin of coen which the neighbour (Mr Gunning) would shake to call his homing pidgeons home. The Pidgeons would return home on hearing the Parrot...!!!!
    I do wonder if anyone on here remembers My Mum, or My Grandparents? Mum was born Ida Helsby & lived in Leeming street. My Grandfather was Joseph Helsby & My Grandmother was Ellen Rowlands, whom was known as 'Auntie Nell'. If Anyone does remember, then, any replies would be most welcome. Again, My apologies for just jumping in on your discussion, but I can't yet figure out how to start my own.
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    Welcome Johnny! Yes I am old enough to remember Gandolfo's Ice cream parlour, (bottom of the village-St Mary's Rd) and also spent many a good evening in The 'Idle Hour' milkbar in Seddon Rd (Opp the Garston Technical School) I remember the name Helsby too, and the Rowlands name. having a problem putting names to faces! so much time has passed unfortunatly and the memories have faded. Helsby's used to be an Optician's in Garston , perhaps there is a connection? Enjoy the Yo Forum. Cheers.

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