Originally Posted by
ChrisGeorge
Quite alright, Dazza. The poem obviously is political so the conversation or whatever reactions it provokes are pertinent to the thread. There is an interesting commentator on CNN named Michael Ware, an Australian by his accent, and he was commenting after Obama's speech that Afghanistan is hopelessly corrupt and that graft and corruption are a way of life there. The Yanks will have to see what can be done in circa 18 months. Filmmaker Michael Moore was on Larry King commenting that they should get out now and that more lives and treasure will be lost, for no real result. Of course that could be said of both Iraq and Afghanistan. One commentator early on 2002-2003 noted that a war against terrorism is basically a secret war, not a shoot-em-up send in the troops war, but of course Bush had to show he was "doing something" which led to the present mess, economically and also in terms of deaths and some 30,000 wounded in Afghanistan alone.
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As for Ben Franklin, he was not called the Father of His Country for nothing.
Chris
I was in Afghanistan in the mid eighties. They are pretty good at what they do, but a lot of their success is to do with the terrain. Pop over to the next valey and no one can see you. Helicopters struggle cos of the altitude, better at lower altitudes.
I thought Benjamin Franklin wanted the snake as an emblem of America. Cos if you trod on it you'd know about it. Then that was changed because of the Adam and Eve story.
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