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    Obama Speaking in Front of the Turkey Eagle

    President Obama is addressing the nation,
    speaking to the cadets at West Point,
    talking in front of a blue eagle flag,
    the shield over the eagle chest, a target,
    a barber's pole of blood and bandages.
    (Franklin wanted the bird to be a turkey;
    other Fathers chose the steel-talon eagle.
    We savor Ben's passion each Thanksgiving.)
    President Obama is counting the sacrifices:
    all the letters he must write to each and
    every family -- the families of the fallen,
    all serving multiple tours, moving targets,
    boots shuffling in the dust to their destiny.
    President Obama is addressing the families
    sitting with the corpses of their loved ones.


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    Very good Chris,

    Turkeys are believed to have first been brought to Britain in 1526 by Yorkshireman William Strickland - he acquired six birds from American Indian traders on his travels and sold them for tuppence each in Bristol. Although, I can't confirm the first 'Turkey' sighting in Liverpool - I think it's safe to assume it was non of the original six, but hey - you never know? Turkeys [I think] originally came from Mexico

    A bird of the Americas, and more useful than an Eagle, as thousands of dinner tables will confirm around the third week in November.

    I've just recently visited Franklin's House, in 36 Craven Street, London - which was a kind of first US embassy in London, although it would have been known as the American Colonies during his tenure there 1757-1775 [1776 - presumably he was off to put his 'John Hancock' on the DOI?]

    http://www.benjaminfranklinhouse.org...ns/default.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    Very good Chris,

    Turkeys are believed to have first been brought to Britain in 1526 by Yorkshireman William Strickland - he acquired six birds from American Indian traders on his travels and sold them for tuppence each in Bristol. Although, I can't confirm the first 'Turkey' sighting in Liverpool - I think it's safe to assume it was non of the original six, but hey - you never know? Turkeys [I think] originally came from Mexico

    A bird of the Americas, and more useful than an Eagle, as thousands of dinner tables will confirm around the third week in November.

    I've just recently visited Franklin's House, in 36 Craven Street, London - which was a kind of first US embassy in London, although it would have been known as the American Colonies during his tenure there 1757-1775 [1776 - presumably he was off to put his 'John Hancock' on the DOI?]

    http://www.benjaminfranklinhouse.org...ns/default.htm
    Thanks, dazza. Yes Franklin did put his "John Hancock" on the Declaration of Independence. I believe I am right in saying that he spent most of the American Revolution in Paris.

    Thanks for those great details on the history of the turkey being brought to Europe and also on Franklin's House.

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    Paris, yes there was lots of distractions there - he liked the ladies.

    Afghanistan, out in 18 months - well we'll see come 1st June 2011? The problem is you can't banish corruption that easily. I agree something has to be done, and pulling out right now would be irresponsible, in view of the recent election fraud...

    People build a city more quickly if there hearts and minds are in it. If not, well the target may be nearer 18 years? What price security, indeed?
    Sorry, I know this is the Creative quarter, so I'll stop right here...

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    Quite alright, Dazza. The poem obviously is political so the conversation or whatever reactions it provokes are pertinent to the thread. There is an interesting commentator on CNN named Michael Ware, an Australian by his accent, and he was commenting after Obama's speech that Afghanistan is hopelessly corrupt and that graft and corruption are a way of life there. The Yanks will have to see what can be done in circa 18 months. Filmmaker Michael Moore was on Larry King commenting that they should get out now and that more lives and treasure will be lost, for no real result. Of course that could be said of both Iraq and Afghanistan. One commentator early on 2002-2003 noted that a war against terrorism is basically a secret war, not a shoot-em-up send in the troops war, but of course Bush had to show he was "doing something" which led to the present mess, economically and also in terms of deaths and some 30,000 wounded in Afghanistan alone.

    As for Ben Franklin, he was not called the Father of His Country for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    As for Ben Franklin, he was not called the Father of His Country for nothing.

    Ha ha, right! I heard he got struck by lightning......he must have been dealing with all that surplus electricity and energy running around his system???


    "Bush had to show he was "doing something""......I agree, the UN was only a thread of cotton holding back the knee jerk [typical] response of his administration. As always [UK, also] there's the official reason for doing things, and then there's the truth.

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