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    A new public park will be created as part of the redevelopment of the former Garden Festival site at Otterspool. The city's executive board has approved a deal which will lease Priory Wood in St Michaels to Langtree McLean, the company which is preparing to bring the derelict south Liverpool landmark back into use. Councillors stressed that there had never been any intention to develop the wood on Riverside Drive and it would be retained as open space, with full public access.

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    Which area is otterspool in? Ain't been therefor years!

    They could put more in parks around here like Picton and Sefton Park too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    Which area is otterspool in? Ain't been therefor years!

    They could put more in parks around here like Picton and Sefton Park too.

    It's down the south end on the river as you approach Aigburth from the town. One day you might be able to get a tram there if they ever build Line 3.

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    Wasn't there supposed to be plans for a tram going from town up to Allerton road?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    It's down the south end on the river as you approach Aigburth from the town. One day you might be able to get a tram there if they ever build Line 3.
    He'll be about 90 by then
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    Quote originally posted by Kev
    "LIVERPOOL'S first new public park for 25 years"


    Is it really 25 yrs since they built a wall around Everton and called it a park? How time flies!
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    THE new consortium behind Liverpool's garden festival site has failed to submit a planning application more than a year after unveiling a new vision for its future, the Daily Post can reveal.

    Last April, developers Langtree O'Rourke said they intended to lodge plans with the council within a month.

    But, more than a year on, the company last night admitted they had still not delivered any planning application to Liverpool council.

    One of the project's senior managers could not give the Daily Post even a loose deadline for delivery on the main part of the development - 1,370 homes and a row of eight-storey luxury apartment blocks.

    David McLean managing director Richard Dean said the consortium was still committed to re-opening the much-loved Oriental gardens in time for the city's Capital of Culture celebrations in 2008.

    But today we can reveal:

    * No budget has been allocated to the company tasked with restoring the Chinese and Japanese gardens to the glory of their 1984 heyday;

    * There is still no plan for what to do with the 90,000 sq ft Festival Hall dome, which has lain unused for the best part of two decades;

    * Negotiations are still continuing with the receivers for the site's previous owners Planestation, over undisclosed issues;

    * Local consultation has raised several "issues" with the design, which Langtree McLean says have yet to be resolved before they can submit any plans;

    * No date has been set for final delivery of the luxury housing estate that would cover about a third of the site. continues...
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    I thought that would have been a great place to put a few towers and I thought their scheme was too low rise.

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    AN EXPERT on Japanese horticulture who helped design Tatton Park's famous gardens has called for Liverpool's International Garden Festival site to be restored.

    Masao Fukuhara, a professor at the Osaka University of Arts in Japan, is keen to see Japanese gardens reinstated in Merseyside.

    His comments came ahead of a series of talks on the history of traditional Japanese gardens organised by the Japan Society North West.

    Last night he spoke at Wirral's Ness Gardens and will tonight present a lecture at Tatton Park.

    Prof Fukuhara said: "I will be visiting the International Garden Festival site as I am particularly hoping for the Japanese gardens at the site to be restored with the festival itself, because it is a great place for people in Merseyside to see different types of garden design. There is something spiritual and peaceful about Japanese gardens.

    "Just as English gardens are becoming increasingly popular in Japan, so are Japanese gardens in England."

    The International Garden Festival site at Otterspool was created in 1984 in the wake of the Toxteth Riots three years earlier.

    The site, bordering Toxteth, had been used for 50 years as a civic rubbish dump and it was transformed into a stunning garden by Merseyside Development Corporation.

    It included traditional gardens from Japan, China, India and other countries and was visited during six months by 3.5m people after being opened by the Queen.

    But when the site closed the then city council decided against taking over the Garden Festival site. It was used for a while as a privately-run garden theme park known as Pleasure Island, but eventually closed and is now in ruins.

    Merseyside developers Langtree has teamed up with housebuilders David McLean to develop large areas of the site for residential and leisure use, with the former gardens restored.

    FOR further information on Prof Fukuhara's talks contact Alice Hynes on: 0151 795 2128.
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    heres some photos of the japanese gardens taken in July when I got lost in the garden festival site (we went to Otterspool & somehow managed to wander into the Garden Festival Site)












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    Brilliant photees, thanks for sharing. I'm glad someone wondered in there!!
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    It's a shame to see it like that. I went 3 times when it was open as the Garden Festival.

    They should make it into another nice park. There's already the remaining features still there which could be restored. The pathways could be cleared and some new planting.

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    How do u get in there?
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    You can watch a film of the Garden Festival as it was, HERE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scousemouse View Post
    You can watch a film of the Garden Festival as it was, HERE
    arh, brings a tear to my eye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    How do u get in there?
    Hi Kev I don't know
    we started walking from Otterspool towards the Albert Dock & only realise we were in the festival site when we saw the Japanese garden ,it was a lot harder to find our way out luckily 2 lads were sagging school in there & showed us a gap in the fence otherwise we might have still be in there

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    There used to be a hole in the fence on the seaward side, just past the pub.
    I haven't a clue if it's still there though. So not much help there then!
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    Lightbulb Liverpool's Garden Festival Site

    Liverpool's International Garden Festival Site

    Saturday 30th September 2006

    An early morning drive took me and my eldest lad to the very small car park that is hidden just off the round-a-bout on Riverside Drive. The gate was open so we went through, the man walking his dog plus well trodden pathways were reasurance that we were ok.

    Walking around the edge of the fence we saw plenty of openings into the site but carried on round until another much larger gap appeared with well trodden paths on the other side, where many had been before us.

    We were immediately greeted by a huge hill, that we decided to walk up. From the top (which is very small area to stand) we could see all around, the Anglican Cathedral, the Festival Dome, southwards towards Garston. That was a unique experience.









    Returning towards ground level we continued following the path around until little reminders of what was once a world class tourist attraction began to appear. The old paths, wooden bridges, overgrown lakes even a large hand impression that I seem to remember included dinosaur ones.









    As we carried on, a shiver went down my spine as the Japanese gardens came into view. I was excited and stunned. They have stood here for decades in this condition, a testament to the original build quality? Lets hope these are restored soon.



















    Time was flying by as we began our exit towards the promenade towards the River Mersey. Even that was beautiful as we walked towards the railings.



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    Was that the dome that used to have Pleasure Island in it?

    I also see you found my handprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    Was that the dome that used to have Pleasure Island in it?

    I also see you found my handprint.
    Its was Max, remember the Rollerbaldes and The Quazar?
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    That place has so much potential I wish they'd give it priority and develop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Its was Max, remember the Rollerbaldes and The Quazar?
    they were great, i went there a few times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Its was Max, remember the Rollerbaldes and The Quazar?
    Only just yeah with all the tubes you could go in I think.
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    I was really interested in those photos Kev.

    It's so sad and depressing to see the state of the place tho' .. I had 3 great days out at the Garden Festival all those years ago.
    I remember all the various features so well. I remember all the crowds of people and the queues to get in. There was a great atmosphere.

    Who would have dreamed then that the site would end up looking like it does now.

    Eerie and depressing.

    It would make a fantastic park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    I was really interested in those photos Kev.

    It's so sad and depressing to see the state of the place tho' .. I had 3 great days out at the Garden Festival all those years ago.
    I remember all the various feartures so well. I remember all the crowds of people and the queues to get in. There was a great atmosphere.

    Who would have dreamed then that the site would end up looking like it does now.

    Eerie and depressing.

    It would make a fantastic park.
    I feel the same Lindy.

    We had a cracking day there with some of our Chinese friends from London. I'm not sure whether they were more impressed with the Garden Festival or the fact that the waiters in China Town spoke Cantonese/Manchurian in a Scouse accent!

    Guess who's doing the cuddling in the pic?

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    The most recent news on the site has stated that developers Langtree has teamed up with housebuilders David McLean to develop large areas of the site for residential and leisure use, with the former gardens restored, 2 weeks ago.
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    A few old photos of the Garden Festival:

    http://community.webshots.com/user/maidmarion114

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    I feel the same Lindy.

    We had a cracking day there with some of our Chinese friends from London. I'm not sure whether they were more impressed with the Garden Festival or the fact that the waiters in China Town spoke Cantonese/Manchurian in a Scouse accent!

    Guess who's doing the cuddling in the pic?
    While searching for my Rock Against Racism pics (still ain't found them), I found these pics. I'll post a few more after tea. The baby's not ours btw. We had to wait a few more years before ours came along.








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    Good pics everyone! I have not read enough to know whether anything is going to be one at the Garden Festival site for 2008? I sincerely hope so because it looks a bit of an eyesore now, doesn't it.

    I was going to post the following in the new creative area. However, because of the close proximity of the area I am talking about to the Garden Festival site I thought it might fit here. Time, summer of 1965.

    Sunset Over the River Mersey

    In the misty summer distance,
    the sun disappears in the hazy
    Welsh hills beyond the Wirral:

    one of the colour slides I took
    as a teenager with my 35 mil
    Zenith Russian camera, an orange-

    purple sky and the reflection
    on the muddy shore of Otterspool,
    not exactly exotic but beautiful

    despite the black, dun glutinous mud
    (soil around Liverpool's black-brown),
    maybe a car tire, the twisted wheel

    of an old baby pram, just south
    from the Beatles' Cazzie Shore.
    I painted the same scene in acrylic;

    long, slim painting to match the scene,
    the layout of my slide, presented the pic
    to some friends; never saw it again.

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