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    Quote Originally Posted by snappel View Post
    I love old photos like that. Anyone got any more of the Seel Street area from that era?
    The best two 1960s Liverpool piccie websites are Brian's http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/brian/index.html and Liz's http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/...os/archive.htm


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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/292602100/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/113/292602100_726ae20bfa_o.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="PB081314" /></a>



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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    I'm sorry about that.
    I meant Hope Street, next door to the Philharmonic Pub.
    Was that the same premises as Hardman Street?
    Yes, the workshops were at the back of the bulding and in the 1st floor and the paint/body shop was on the top floor. The entrance you mean was the reception and lubrication bay. A company called 'White Cable' occupied 2nd and 3rd floors, they were wholesale paper dealers
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    Does that Herberts look better in real-life Phil?

    I seem to remember the artists impressions giving the building rather better proportions than are apparent from the photo. The photo makes the building's design features seem a bit half-arsed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    Does that Herberts look better in real-life Phil?

    I seem to remember the artists impressions giving the building rather better proportions than are apparent from the photo. The photo makes the building's design features seem a bit half-arsed.
    I'm not keen on it.
    It is gimmicky and pretty bulky (and I think pretty is as good a work as any).
    And the gold just looks like flimsy aluminium.
    But I do like the BBC Merseyside building.

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    Herbert's as usual looks tacky.
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    Liverpool 1 is going to do so much towards changing people's perseptions towards this city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post


    Liverpool 1 is going to do so much towards changing people's perseptions towards this city.
    It is also in the right location right near the dock water spaces, bringing the centre of the city nearer and maybe onto the water spaces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    It is also in the right location right near the dock water spaces, bringing the centre of the city nearer and maybe onto the water spaces.
    That's definitely the appeal of it for me too.

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    we can't let it all just stop at the city centre/docks though can we?

    The reinvention of Liverpool is rightfully seen as a top-down process i.e.

    Phase 1: Bulk out the city centre connecting it to a bulked out waterfront.
    This is the single most economic driver to provide jobs, staunch the depopulation etc etc. Hopefully we can put a tick against that one. I for one can't wait to see the plans for the Central Docks and the Baltic.

    NEXT however has to be a Phase 2 (made possble by the success of Phase 1), and that is to reignite the Districts, alleviate this ring of poverty which surrounds the centre and mars all the city centre approaches. So:

    Phase 2: Great Howie St, Scottie, London Rd, Wavertree Rd, Smithdown/Parly, Prinnie Avenue, Parky and the districts Vauxhall, Everton, Kennie, Tocky, Dingle..all become enriched, reinvigorated, repopulated by the economic spur provided by the success of Phase1, and these districts become a kind of Greater City Centre each with their own separate and distinct thriving centres of activity and attractions.
    Again we can put a provisional tick against the fact that some of this is already being ennacted ie New Anfield proposed regeneration of that area and the Edge Lane/Kennie redevelopement.

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    We're at the start of a very exciting journey. We are in effect attempting to 'build' a new city in a way. It's on that scale. As such it's only when we see those changes happening in Phase 2 (and then beyond) can we really say that we were successful or not.
    As far as the actual welfare of the people of this city is concerned Phase 2 is the real objective.

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    Scouserdave.
    My love of tall buildings is nothing to do with penis envy.
    My ****'s the biggest on this forum and it works fine.
    AK1.
    If I want height, why shouldn't I get it?
    I have as much right to input on this city as anyone.
    As for that list of European cities, they all have many taller buildings than Liverpool has.
    You wont find much of our 1 & 2 storey crap there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    we can't let it all just stop at the city centre/docks though can we?

    The reinvention of Liverpool is rightfully seen as a top-down process i.e.

    Phase 1: Bulk out the city centre connecting it to a bulked out waterfront.
    This is the single most economic driver to provide jobs, staunch the depopulation etc etc. Hopefully we can put a tick against that one. I for one can't wait to see the plans for the Central Docks and the Baltic.
    The centre moving onto the waterspaces, as opposed to "waterfront" (this is a term used by sharks to justify filling in docks and face buildings towards the river).

    The Dock Rd has to be broken up. The Strand can become a Ramblas as in Barcelona instead of windswept urban throughway for cars. Improving the rail infrastructure by using the Dingle station and the Wapping and Waterloo tunnels will negate car usage to the centre. Throughways should curve around the centre, not through it.

    The Central Docks plans I see problems. Peel will want to keep the partially in-filled Trafalgar Dock fully filled and want, if not initially, the in-filling of West Waterloo Dock. They have no intention of restoring the docks to full deep water capability - the historic ships at Birkenhead need a new home and these would have been ideal.

    There are moves to get these docks into the full WHS zone and get them fully excavated. Go to Google Earth and look at the satellite picture. The outline of the original Clarence Dock (the first dock with a half-tide dock and had spring loaded non-return lock gates) can be seen - the angles quays are clear) even after Clarence docks power station was built and now demolished. The outline of Trafalgar and Victoria Docks are still there complete with granite quays. There is no reason why these historic water spaces can't be excavated and inventive buildings built around the quays.

    NEXT however has to be a Phase 2 (made possible by the success of Phase 1), and that is to reignite the Districts, alleviate this ring of poverty which surrounds the centre and mars all the city centre approaches. So:

    Phase 2: Great Howie St, Scottie, London Rd, Wavertree Rd, Smithdown/Parly, Prinnie Avenue, Parky and the districts Vauxhall, Everton, Kennie, Tocky, Dingle..all become enriched, reinvigorated, repopulated by the economic spur provided by the success of Phase1, and these districts become a kind of Greater City Centre each with their own separate and distinct thriving centres of activity and attractions.
    The problem is that much of the south and north end of the city adjacent docks areas are just glorified council estates - and full of far too many "scallies". Canal boaters require an escort on the Leeds-Liverpool canal from Maghull to Stanley Dock, as they are stoned along the Liverpool stretch. Liverpool also has to work hard on its people problems.

    To make it a success and attract the middle classes back into the centre, these areas have to be broken up somewhat and private developments introduced. Bringing the Dingle underground rail station back on line would be a great step to regenerate that area and attract private developments around the station - fast transit to the centre and beyond - and to the airport (well sort of if that useless Parkway is regarded as the airport). A similar thing could be done around Merseyrail stations in the north end too. Make the stations the centre of the district as in London.

    Again we can put a provisional tick against the fact that some of this is already being ennacted ie New Anfield proposed regeneration of that area and the Edge Lane/Kennie redevelopement.
    Do dot be fooled by hype that a footie stadium will regenerate Anfield. It will do little if nothing. There will an initial investment, but it is unlikely it will maintain growth of any significance. There has been two large stadia in the area for 114 years and they have done little for the areas - in fact the reverse.

    We're at the start of a very exciting journey. We are in effect attempting to 'build' a new city in a way. It's on that scale. As such it's only when we see those changes happening in Phase 2 (and then beyond) can we really say that we were successful or not.
    As far as the actual welfare of the people of this city is concerned Phase 2 is the real objective.
    Look at http://www.saveliverpooldocks.co.uk The canal link page
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    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Scouserdave.
    My love of tall buildings is nothing to do with penis envy.
    My ****'s the biggest on this forum and it works fine.
    AK1.
    If I want height, why shouldn't I get it?
    I have as much right to input on this city as anyone.
    As for that list of European cities, they all have many taller buildings than Liverpool has.
    You wont find much of our 1 & 2 storey crap there though.
    Talls buildings for tall sake is not a good thing. Tall and quality and where it should be tall then fine. In fact much of Liverpool can be talls off the dock water spaces lined up on the hills. A tall or two at Dingle with the underground station beneath? Croydon has a high rise cluster and not one is of any note whatsoever. Manchester, Leeds and Birmingham are building bland, boring off-the-shelf designs - there is an apendix in the instructions that tells you how to calculate the footings and what colour glass to choose and list of the parts and where to buy them.
    The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
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    Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
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    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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    Waterways, you're right about the footprint of a building affecting its height but this works both ways.
    The Cesar Pelli building in the PDSA has lost 3 floors which, besides massively reducing a developers potential value from the site, makes the reduced finished article appear stumpy and misshapen and consequently has a far worse effect on its neighbours than the original plan would have. This factor is never taken into account by those who think they are protecting the city by introducing height restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Waterways, you're right about the footprint of a building affecting its height but this works both ways.
    The Cesar Pelli building in the PDSA has lost 3 floors which, besides massively reducing a developers potential value from the site, makes the reduced finished article appear stumpy and misshapen and consequently has a far worse effect on its neighbours than the original plan would have. This factor is never taken into account by those who think they are protecting the city by introducing height restrictions.
    Unfortunately if you want tall then it is outside the WHS and buffer zone. By the end of the week we will know if Brunswick Quay Tower has the go ahead. If this goes up expect more talls down that end of the Docks. Harrington and Toxteth Docks are rife for talls and excavation.
    The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
    Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click

    Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
    longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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