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    Quote Originally Posted by knowhowe View Post
    Ah, I thought it must be in Liverpool but couldn't place that nice house with the turret... well spotted!
    That house had a spire on it and looked even better. It is predominately in Liverpool they paint the outsides of the houses. It makes them waterproof as well.

    The street is actually Blythswood St/Colebrooke Rd - the corner. Lambton is the next street down.

    The turreted house is opposite Dingle playing fields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi Waterways

    Actually I am certain the Jericho Farm farmhouse was demolished in the Sixties not the Seventies. I lived in Mossley Hill at the time and because I was very interested in local history, I distinctly remember it being swept away. This was about the same time the Old Hutte at Halewood was demolished to make way for the Ford factory. Both of those events, and losses to local history (!), had to have been in the Sixties because I re-emigrated to come back to the United States in August 1968, leaving on a United States Lines freighter from Liverpool to Philadelphia.

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    Chris,

    There was a house set back not far from Aigburth Rd that was abandoned and demolished in the 1970s. Maybe it wasn't the farmhouse. It looked quite a size. Old maps may show it.

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    Default Dingle glen walking guide.

    Hi guys,

    I've created a walking guide [of sorts] for all you urban explorers out there who, like myself, expressed some interest about revisiting the area again, to try and get some bearing on where Dingle glen was actually located.

    I hope this helps? I've overlaid the Dingle estate map from 1850 over the Google Earth view, which shows the old garden festival site. There may be some inaccuracies with the map, as they do tend to stretch over time, and with repeated copying - although, I think I've got it fairly close.

    Good luck exploring!

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    [QUOTE=darrenwhite100;202299]Hi guys,

    I've created a walking guide [of sorts] for all you urban explorers out there who, like myself expressed some interest about revisiting the area again, with respect to the photos published, and to try and get some bearing on where Dingle glen was actually located.

    I hope this helps? I've overlaid the Dingle estate map from 1850 over the Google Earth view, which shows the old garden festival site. There may be some inaccuracies with the map, as they do tend to stretch over time, and with repeated copying - although, I think I've got it fairly close.

    Good luck exploring!

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    Watch out, you'll get the locals after you. A couple of years ago they demanded the Dingle district sign along Riverside Drive be removed as they thought they lived in Aigburth. This overlay of course proves otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post

    Watch out, you'll get the locals after you. A couple of years ago they demanded the Dingle district sign along Riverside Drive be removed as they thought they lived in Aigburth. This overlay of course proves otherwise
    Hi Taffy thanks for that. It doesn't surprise me, people have gone to war over less.

    Does that now mean we can put it back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrenwhite100 View Post
    Hi Taffy thanks for that. It doesn't surprise me, people have gone to war over less.

    Does that now mean we can put it back?
    No, too many Liberal voters live in the area !!! They couldn't possible live in Labour Dingle

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post
    No, too many Liberal voters live in the area !!! They couldn't possible live in Labour Dingle
    Well...if it was good enough for royalty [King John is going back a few years though, I give you that] it should be good enough for those sign-robbing Liberals?

    BTW this is 'my' favourite sign.

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    Image 1 ^ - Railway bridge across the Dingle Glen c.1920 LRO. The view is looking down towards the river, which incidentally is the same view as that given in image 2 below, which was drawn before the railway cut across the glen.




    Image 2 ^ - Dingle Toxteth Park, Looking down Dingle Glen, to the River Mersey from the Summer House. LRO.




    Image 3 ^ - The head of Dingle Glen, with the Turner Memorial Home in the Distance c.1920 LRO.




    Image 4 ^ - Dingle Glen [the railway bridge cuts across it] c.1908 OS map.

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    Question I remember that cow too...

    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    .....

    I recall as a tiny kid Jerico farm, seeing for the first time a cow. It was near the gate at Jerico Lane. It was brown and white patches. I touched it. I have never touched a cow since. Yes, a farm in the city. The farmhouse was there until the early to mid 1970s, then it was demolished to build flats between Jerico Lane and Aigburth Rd. It was a nice house and deserved to be kept.

    .....
    ....and the little dairy there....
    That's were our milkman loaded his horse and cart.

    But weren't you shipped to Colemendy (sp?) in N. Wales for two weeks when you were 12 or so?

    The Liverpool Schools kept a camp there so kids could hike, see cows and sheep, know not what to step in, and breathe that funny fresh air...

    It was a great break from school...

    gil A - I think I was 12 or so when I went there...

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    Daz, sorry to be a bit thick but where is the railway bridge u have mentioned, is it on the Northern Line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Daz, sorry to be a bit thick but where is the railway bridge u have mentioned, is it on the Northern Line?
    Hi Kev,
    the one in Dazza's recent post,is in Otterspool!

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    Daz, sorry to be a bit thick but where is the railway bridge u have mentioned, is it on the Northern Line?
    Hi Kev, it serves the Liverpool Central/ Hunts Cross line. The railway track is mostly excavated embankment as it cuts through the Dingle [see map below], but where it crossed Dingle glen, it formed a bridge with arches beneath - as shown on the earlier photograph. [I've marked the site with a 'red' ellipse on the map below].

    I think the bridge still exists, but has been lost to view, as the corpy back-filled the ground around it up to the level of the present day track.

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    I'm very impressed by Dazza's attention to detail, so much so that I've joined this forum as, sometimes, I might be able to add something.
    The name "Dingle Glen" never existed.
    It's only ever been called "The Dingle".
    The top of the bridge is visible, just a few yards from the mouth of the tunnel.
    It can be seen from the train.
    And probably with a good zoom lens from St Michaels Station.

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    Looking in the opposite direction to the map - towards the river. The bridge can be seen. The track enters the tunnel, right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples View Post
    The name "Dingle Glen" never existed.
    It's only ever been called "The Dingle".
    The top of the bridge is visible, just a few yards from the mouth of the tunnel.
    It can be seen from the train.
    And probably with a good zoom lens from St Michaels Station.
    Thanks Quentin, and welcome to the forum. You pay me too big a complement, as I'm also learning new things here on Yo! But thanks all the same.

    "Dingle Glen" as you rightly point out doesn't feature on the maps, or anywhere else for that matter. So far, I've only found one reference to it, in Robert Griffiths' book, The History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth, Liverpool, writing in 1907. I have since heard "Dingle Dell" - and "Dingle Days" being referred to, as the days in which the misses Yates would allow public access to The Dingle.

    The bridge. I did wonder whether it still existed [albeit, in some subterranean form?] Thanks for the confirmation. I'll take some photos of the bridge top-side, next time I'm in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples View Post
    I'm very impressed by Dazza's attention to detail, so much so that I've joined this forum as, sometimes, I might be able to add something.
    The name "Dingle Glen" never existed.
    It's only ever been called "The Dingle".
    The top of the bridge is visible, just a few yards from the mouth of the tunnel.
    It can be seen from the train.
    And probably with a good zoom lens from St Michaels Station.
    Hello Quentin

    Welcome to the forum.

    You are right in a sense... because a "glen" and a "dingle" are the same thing, so using both words is overkill--

    http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/dingle

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    Question That's interesting...

    We never went to Colemendy either - none of the schools in Anfield went as far as I know. I don't know anyone who went either.

    Kids in Liverpool 8 didn't go to Colemendy - well I never knew any that went. Our school never took us. That for the others not us.
    ...I thought everyone went...

    I am sure it was owned by the Liverpool Schools....
    Perhaps it was just certain high schools?
    Essentially everyone at Quarry Bank went, and IIRC my sister at Aigburth Vale went too...

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    Default Dingle Railway Bridge.

    Thanks for the photo WW. I've orientated the 1906 OS map around, so that it matches the photo in scale and direction. The tunnel entrance can be seen just to the right, and the ground embankment seen on the map is still present on the photo. Also, there seems to be some ground settlement either side of the bridge.

    What do you guys think?


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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Didn't we have a thread about Colomendy? I went several times in the late 60s.

    Chris,
    Many of my friends went to Rose Lane School, then Quarry Bank. I think you're a couple of years older than me so you won't have known them.

    There is a Colomendy thread somewhere here. I was at Rose Lane 1961-1964 and Quarry Bank 1964-1968.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    There is a Colomendy thread somewhere here. I was at Rose Lane 1961-1964 and Quarry Bank 1964-1968.

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    ...overlapped....

    I left Quarry Bank in 1965 for Liverpool University.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    There is a Colomendy thread somewhere here. I was at Rose Lane 1961-1964 and Quarry Bank 1964-1968.

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    Colomendy (with photos) is mentioned on these threads here.

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    I should start a new thread but is anyone else confused with the rebranding of Liverpool? I was told that Canning street was in Dingle and earlier I was trying to figure out how far I live from Otterspool and Google told me the following- Otterspool, Ellesmere Port, Merseyside, UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCake View Post
    I should start a new thread but is anyone else confused with the rebranding of Liverpool? I was told that Canning street was in Dingle and earlier I was trying to figure out how far I live from Otterspool and Google told me the following- Otterspool, Ellesmere Port, Merseyside, UK.
    There is an Otterspool in Ellesmere Port AC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    There is an Otterspool in Ellesmere Port AC.
    I wonder if it's possible to report mistakes to Google? I hate to be pedantic but it's annoying that it's shown as being in Aigburth on the map but the text says different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCake View Post
    I wonder if it's possible to report mistakes to Google? I hate to be pedantic but it's annoying that it's shown as being in Aigburth on the map but the text says different.
    Couldn't help you there AC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCake View Post
    I should start a new thread but is anyone else confused with the rebranding of Liverpool? I was told that Canning street was in Dingle and earlier I was trying to figure out how far I live from Otterspool and Google told me the following- Otterspool, Ellesmere Port, Merseyside, UK.
    To us Dingle was from High Park St down to the Dingle. People outside would say we lived in Dingle when in reality we lived in Harrington. Canning St is Granby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCake View Post
    I wonder if it's possible to report mistakes to Google? I hate to be pedantic but it's annoying that it's shown as being in Aigburth on the map but the text says different.


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    The Everton sign outside Costco is laughable. It is actually Vauxhall but as a district that doesn't seem to exist. Canning might be a region to describe the Georgian Quarter but is that too recognised as a district?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    The Everton sign outside Costco is laughable. It is actually Vauxhall but as a district that doesn't seem to exist. Canning might be a region to describe the Georgian Quarter but is that too recognised as a district?
    Vauxhall never really existed. It was some sort of notional district. I think it was a ward only in name. I never hear anyone say, "I am going to Vauxhall". Well if Vauxhall was a district we should have had an Exchange district then.

    The boundaries of Toxteth are being changed as well. With the signs at Dingle Vale. Toxteth goes right up to Aigburth Vale, where the sign was. Most of Penny Lane was in Toxteth as well.
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