Warships of many nations are moving into their positions for a fleet review in the Royal Roads anchorage off Esquimalt Lagoon, this very hour. All have come to share Canada celebrating her navy's centennial. What used to be know as The Royal Canadian Navy is one hundred years old. The US Navy has the largest lineup with USS Ronald Reagan overshadowing all other ships. New Zealand has sent two
units, Japan also, with one each from Australia and France. Almost forgot USCGC Alert from Astoria.
For the first time in modern history it seems GB has no ships anywhere in the Pacific, that could be a part of this great celebration. The Royal Navy was the "mother" of the RCN and in addition to creating a naval base here, she also had ships stationed here through the First World War. I suppose GB will send something to the celebrations in the Atlantic; at least I would hope so. The French ship, Prairial, is a surveillence frigate, stationed in Papeete, French Polynesia. Sad that no RN ship is present.
I think it is a disgrace that Britain has reduced its Fleet to almost zero. Once the biggest and best in the world we have third world nations with bigger fleets.
We have just sold half the fleet to several third world Navies.
The participating ships are shown here -
http://www.navy.forces.gc.ca/marpac/...p?category=101
I thought the harbour was in Vancouver, but my geography was a bit off - It's in the Victoria area, but a bit West of the civil harbour, and an area we did not visit last year...
I suppose we should be glad that we do not spend as much money on weapons and vessels of war,hence Great Britains no show at the Canadian celebration of her Navy's Pacific fleet. How different things were in yesteryear,this painting gives a glimpse of one small section of the naval might that was on display at the Spithead Review in 1937. The black hulled vessel is the old Royal yacht,
BrianD
Thursday 17 June 2010 is the 70th Anniversary of the worst sea disaster Britain has ever suffered, it is estimated that 6,5000 men and women died on that day in 1940. The Cunard Liner, LANCASTRIA, was bombed and sunk by the Germans while evacuating troops off the beach by St Nazaire, France.
While people were struggling in oil covered waters, the German s bombed the sea with flares and incindiries to set fire to the oil and oil soacked survivors.
There were around 9,000 people on board when she was hit and only 2,500 were saved. Many Merseyside people died there.
The survivors were taken to Plymouth and sworn to secrecy, Churchill put a ban on any news of the disaster so the Germans would not use it for propaganda. The ban on the news is still inforce today.
Billy McGee, a Champion of all things Mercantile published the list of the dead crewmen on another site, Most are from Liverpool.
All the other dead would be Servicemen from the Army and Royal Air Force.
here is the List also the link to THREE UTUBE VIDEOS.
Lancastria 70 years on
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOE0zpAxXA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IPhF...eature=related
www.lancastria.org.uk.
Tower Hill Memorial. LONDON. Panel 63 RMS LANCASTRIA.
ADAMS, Steward, THOMAS A., S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 36.
AMOS, Steward, THOMAS, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 56. Husband of Miriam Amos, of Liverpool.
AUSTIN, Steward, JAMES, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 48.
BOYLE, Sailor, MICHAEL, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 19. Son of Mr. and Mrs. W. J. Boyle, of Liverpool.
BRADLEY, Sectionman, HERBERT, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 43. Husband of Alice M. Bradley, of Liverpool.
BRISCOE, Chief Steward, NORMAN LORD, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 49. Son of John and Annie Briscoe, of Liverpool; husband of Alice Mary Briscoe, of Meols, Cheshire.
CLARKE, Barkeeper, THOMAS LONSDALE, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 44. Husband of Ada Frith Clarke, of Troon, Ayrshire.
COFFEY, Sectionman, JOSEPH, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 57.
COMAN, Assistant Steward, WILLIAM J., S.S. Lancastria (London). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 40. Husband of Margaret Coman, of Prestatyn, Flintshire.
CONNOR, Sailor, ALBERT MICHAEL, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 23. Son of Charles W. and Margaret J. Connor, of Anfield, Liverpool.
CROFT, Trimmer, ERNEST JAMES, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 35. Husband of Margaret Croft, of Waterloo, Liverpool.
CUNNINGHAM, Assistant Steward, ALBERT, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 23. Son of John and Elisebeth Cunningham; husband of Hilda Cunningham of Kirkdale, Liverpool.
DARLEY, Deck Boy, JOHN FREDERICK, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 17.
DEVLIN, Greaser, THOMAS, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 55. Husband of Mary Devlin, of Greenock, Renfrewshire.
DINGLE, Porter, ROBERT, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 30.
DUCK, Steward, EDWARD DOUGLAS, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 55. Son of Charles Ready Duck and Anne Jane Duck.
DUNCAN, Senior Second Engineer Officer, JAMES, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 51. King's Commendation for Brave Conduct. Husband of Rita Duncan, of Crosby, Liverpool.
DUNMORE, Waiter, HERBERT RICHARD, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 53. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Frank Herbert Dunmore; husband of Hannah F. Dunmore, of Liverpool.
EADES, Steward, JOHN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 39.
FRASER, Chief Master at Arms, ALEXANDER IRVINE, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 34. Husband of Annie Kathleen Fraser, of Liverpool.
FRODSHAM, Steward, THOMAS HENRY, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 46. Son of John Henry and Sarah Frodsham; husband of Margaret Helena Frodsham, of Birkenhead.
GILBERT, Steward, HENRY, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 54. Husband of May Gilbert, of Liverpool.
GREEN, Assistant Cook, JOSEPH, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 20. Son of Albert and Alice Green, of Orrell, Bootle, Lancashire.
HAWES, Able Seaman, ARTHUR LAWSON, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 63.
HAYDEN, Boatswain, WILLIAM, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 51. Husband of Harriet Hayden, of West Derby, Liverpool.
HAYNES, Assistant Steward, JAMES, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 23. Son of James and Mary E. Haynes, of Birkenhead.
HILL, Surgeon, JOHN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 44. Son of James and Jessie Gordon Hill; husband of Grace Leisk Hill, of Glasgow. M.B., Ch.B., M.D.
HUGHES, Waiter, JAMES, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 44. Son of Thomas R. and Hannah Hughes; husband of Sarah A. Hughes, of Liverpool.
ILLIDGE, Waiter, HARRY A., S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 57.
IMLACH, Seaman, JACOB COWIE, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 30. Son of William and Maggie Jean Cowie Imlach, of Portessie, Banffshire.
JACKSON, Steward, HARRY, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 55.
KELLY, Steward, JAMES ERNEST, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 49.
KEY, Captain's Steward, STANLEY LOUIS FREDERIC, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 34.
MAJOR, Greaser, ROBERT GEORGE, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 38. Son of Robert and Sarah Ann Major; husband of Lilian Rebecca Major, of Walton, Liverpool.
MARSHALLSAY, Assistant Barkeeper, JOSEPH, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 62. Son of Edward and Margaret Marshallsay; husband of Edith Maud Marshallsay, of Formby, Lancashire.
MASON, Trimmer, JOHN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 50.
MOTTERSHEAD, Assistant Cook, WALTER, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 31. Husband of Nellie Mottershead, of Tranmere, Birkenhead.
McCAW, Storekeeper, SAMUEL ALEXANDER, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 30.
McGORRIN, Cook, OWEN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 55. Husband of Edith McGorrin, of Dingle, Liverpool.
OLIVER, Steward, THOMAS JOHN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 57.
OWEN, Assistant Baker, FREDERICK, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 52.
PEARSE, Chef, JOSEPH, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 51. Son of John and Anne Pearse; husband of Elizabeth Pearse, of Liverpool.
PORTER, Junior Assistant Purser, CUTHBERT EDGAR, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 31.
READ, Chief Butcher, THOMAS DOUGLAS, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 53. Husband of Charlotte Read, of Liverpool.
ROBERTS, First Officer, RICHARD GORONWY, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 54.
ROGERSON, Steward, ARTHUR, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 60.
ROWE, Porter, THOMAS, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 58.
RYAN, Waiter, EDWARD JOHN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 23. Son of Edward and Louisa Ryan, of Everton, Lancashire.
SHEPHERD, Dispenser, FRED, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 36.
SLATER, Steward, WILLIAM H., S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 48.
SMITH, Steward, JOSEPH EDWIN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 37. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Frederick Smith; husband of Helen D. Smith, of Douglas, Isle of Man.
SNOWDON, Steward, JOHN HERBERT, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 61. Son of John and Kathleen Snowdon; husband of Florence Snowdon, of Liverpool.
STANTON, Assistant Steward, PATRICK, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 61.
SURTEES, Ordinary Seaman, ROBERT, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 18. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Robert Kinmond Surtees, of Bootle, Lancashire.
TAYLOR, Steward, THOMAS, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 26.
TEMBY, Porter, EDGAR, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 60.
TILSTON, Able Seaman, GEORGE HENRY, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 30. Son of Edwin and Elizabeth Tilston; husband of Violet Tilston, of Katwijk-Am-Zee, Holland.
WALSH, Fireman, PATRICK J., S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 33. Son of James Peter and Ellen Walsh, of Liverpool.
WALTON, Trimmer, JOSEPH, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 27. Son of Joseph and Ellen Walton, of Liverpool.
Buried Ashore
McDONALD, Steward, JOHN, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 60. Buried Pornic War Cemetery.
RICHARDSON, Assistant Butcher, WILLIAM, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 23rd January 1947. Age 39. Son of Patrick and Mary Richardson, of Liverpool; husband of Marion Richardson, of Liverpool. Buried Liverpool (West Derby) Cemetery
ROGERS, Steward, HERBERT, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 48. Buried L’Aiguillion-Sur-Mer Communal Cemetery.
RUMNEY, Third Officer, REGINALD GORDON, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 45. Buried Pornic War Cemetery.
SMITH, Steward, WILFRED GEORGE, S.S. Lancastria (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 17th June 1940. Age 29. Buried Escoublac-La-Baule War Cemetery.
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"On all the oceans white caps flow, you do not see crosses row on row, but those that sleep beneath the sea, rest in peace for your country is free"
Good post CK,but sad to see so many local names! Do you know how the relatives were informed,at the time?(assuming they were, told!)
Steve.
Hi Steve ,
They usually got a letter in the post to say, Dear Mr and Mrs Smith, We are sorry to inform you ,your son, Charles ,was killed on his ship, SS Lancastria on Thursday 17 June 1940.
Yours sincerely
GOV.
I saw a letter sent to the parents of a friend who went down on the Gloucester Castle, very similar to that. very brief.
Kept it from the relatives? The immediate cessation of any allotment of a seaman's pay, to wife, mother etc. would be news enough that something bad had befallen their loved one.
Hi Wsteve 55,
I think you will find the following interesting....
"Acknowledgement to The HMT Lancastria Assocstion" for this article.
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On the 17th of June 1940 the 16,000 ton Cunard liner Lancastria lay 5 miles off St Nazaire and embarked troops, RAF personnel, and civilian refugees, including women and children, who were being evacuated from France, which was then on the point of collapse. The number on board may never be known, but almost certainly exceeded 6,000; some estimates were as high as 9,000. The Lancastria was attacked and hit by bombs from German aircraft. The ship sank rapidly and, according to the estimate of the Captain, only around 2,500 of those on board were saved.
Owing to the scale of the tragedy, Winston Churchill forbade publication of the news, in the interests of public morale, and hence the story of the Lancastria has never been generally known, although it is Britain's worst maritime disaster.
After the war the 'Lancastria Survivors Association' was set up by Major Peter Petit, which brought together the then-known survivors, however, this Association lapsed after Major Petit's death.
The Association was revived in its present form in 1980. We meet our objectives by holding meetings, both on a national and a regional basis and by making pilgrimages to the St Nazaire area, visiting cemeteries where victims are buried, and the wreck itself. In 2005 we made another pilgrimage to St Nazaire to mark the 65th anniversary of the tragedy. Sixteen survivors were with us on this occasion.
Our membership in 2009 includes approximately 70 survivors of the disaster, some now living as far away as North America, Israel, and Australia and New Zealand. Although survivor numbers are inevitably declining, the exciting thing is that we are still finding survivors, some via the Internet.
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Our prime meeting each year is held on the first Sunday after the 17th of June at St Katharine Cree Church, Leadenhall Street, in the City of London. The Annual General Meeting is preceded by a ceremony at the Merchant Navy Memorial on nearby Tower Hill and is followed by a remembrance service at the church. Other activities include an annual service, usually in September, at the National Arboretum at Alrewas in Staffordshire where Merchant Navy losses in World War 2 are remembered by a convoy (of trees) headed by the Lancastria.
Membership of the Association is now open to any person who wishes to remember the sacrifices made in, or resulting from, the action of the 17th of June 1940.
Reg.
The death of a ship - sad but fascinating. I believe it's going to be a TV programme. If the link doesn't work I'll try and find another way of posting it.
http://rcpt.yousendit.com/888562599/...161059dfd0608b
You have to download the file to view it.
HMT LANCASTRIA
(June 17, 1940)
The Cunard /White Star passenger liner Lancastria, the former Tyrrhenia (16,243 tons) is bombed and sunk off St. Nazaire, France. While lying at anchor in the Charpentier Roads, five enemy KG.30 Dornier Do17 planes dive bombed the ship which sank in twenty minutes taking the lives of nearly 3,000 troops and over 1,000 civilians.The Lancastria had been converted into a troopship and set sail from Liverpool on June 14th. to assist in the evacuation of British troops and refugees from France (Operation Aerial). Her captain, Rudolf Sharpe, took on board as many troops and refugees as possible. She was about to sail to England after loading on board soldiers and RAF personnel of the British Expeditionary Force, plus about a thousand of civilian refugees. One bomb exploded in the Number 2 hold where around 800 RAF personnel had been placed. About 1,400 tons of fuel oil spilled from the stricken vessel as the Dornier's dropped incendiaries in an attempt to set the oil on fire. The 2,477 survivors, including her captain, were picked up by HMS Havelock and other ships. The bomb which actually sank the Lancastria went straight down the funnel. The site of the sinking is now an official War Grave protected by The Protection of Military Remains Act of 1986. The loss of the Lancastria was the fourth largest maritime disaster of the war. Captain Rudolf Sharpe later lost his life when the ship he commanded, the Laconia, was sunk. Under the Official Secrets Act, the report on the Lancastria cannot be published until the year 2040. If it is proved that Captain Sharpe ignored the Ministry of Defence instructions not to exceed the maximum loading capacity of 3000 persons, grounds for compensation claims could be enormous.
george Duncans disasters at sEA
What a tragedy. Thanks for those details, Captain.
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