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    The longest tunnel in the UK was supposed to be the London Underground Northern Line tunnel, which runs from the north of London, south, under the Thames and emerges in south London.

    On Liverpool's Merseyrail: Since the 1970s when new tunnels were constructed in Liverpool's centre, from Birkenhead Park station to Brunswick Station at Liverpool's South Docks is all one tunnel with only air shafts in strategic places. Does anyone know the total length of this tunnel run? It must be approaching 5 miles. It must be one of the longest, if not the longest tunnel lengths in the country.


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    Wouldn't that apply to the Circle Line on the Underground in London, WW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    Wouldn't that apply to the Circle Line on the Underground in London, WW.
    I thought that. But it is open to the air at various points. Edgware Road station is totally open air and not in a deep cutting - from street level it is a few steps down to the platform. It may be pedantic points and the Circle Line can maybe regarded as the longest. I don't know the length of the Glasgow loop which is 100% underground.

    Also, the Tunnel from Central emerges for a few yards at Herculaneum, then back into a another tunnel to near St Michaels Station. This is 1082 yards, approx 3/4 mile. If the Central Line in London is regarded as all one tunnel then 1082 yards can be added to the B'head Park to St Michaels, which gives 4.72 miles - I think.

    I don't know why they never insisted this small open section of track at Herculaneum was not covered to create one tunnel as this section of line is a noise nuisance to the now many residents around the area. It can't be expensive to close the track in using concrete arches.
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    I did some looking:

    The longest underground rail tunnel in the UK is from East Finchley to Morden on the London Underground Northern line - just over 17 miles in length.

    The longest underground rail tunenl in the world is:
    Seikan Tunnel in Japan 33.5 miles long.
    The Channel tunnel is 31.3 miles long.

    Our less than 5 miles of tunnel is tiny to them. But over 4 miles of tunnel is still loooooooooong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I did some looking:

    The longest underground rail tunnel in the UK is from East Finchley to Morden on the London Underground Northern line - just over 17 miles in length.

    The longest underground rail tunenl in the world is:
    Seikan Tunnel in Japan 33.5 miles long.
    The Channel tunnel is 31.3 miles long.

    Our less than 4 miles of tunnel is tiny to them. But over 4 miles of tunnel is still loooooooooong.
    Dont sound like much fun! 33 miles underground?......... there again,with the speed of Japanese trains,wouldn't take long!

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    I did some surfing on underground rail systems. It is amazing that no one has mentioned that Liverpool has the second oldest underground rail network in the world - 1886. They say Budapest was the second oldest in 1892. Those in Glasgow say Glasgow was the second oldest in the UK. Sure they were.

    The first three tunnels bored under a metropolis (under streets), were, the Crown St tunnel, Wapping Tunnel and the Lime Street tunnel - all in Liverpool. The oldest used rail tunnel in the world is in Liverpool and the oldest used rail station as well.

    Amazing how they forget Liverpool. No surprise.
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