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    Default A challenge!Liverpool's oldest monument?

    Would anyone here,hazard a guess,at what might be the oldest standing monument/statue, in Liverpool?


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    What counts as liverpool ? At a guess, the cross by u

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    Victoria Monument

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    The Town Hall is the oldest of the L/Pool "public" buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing View Post
    The Town Hall is the oldest of the L/Pool "public" buildings.
    Monument/statue!

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    Victoria then .

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    Hunts Cross.The cross in Woolton.The Monks Well by Picton Clock

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    could it be the Calderstones???
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    Come on,let's have some dates then! Calderstones, are, probably the oldest remains,of a structure,but they've been moved several times,and I was thinking of things that are reasonably identifiable,by most of us,(any pic's?)and still in original position!


    Hi Robbo,how's things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNASHER View Post
    Hunts Cross.The cross in Woolton.The Monks Well by Picton Clock
    Any dates/pic's of these Gnasher? If the cross in Woolton, is the one i'm thinking of...any history,would be interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Any dates/pic's of these Gnasher? If the cross in Woolton, is the one i'm thinking of...any history,would be interesting!
    No date for Hunt's Cross.
    Monks well is said to be about 600yrs old.
    Woolton Cross is thought to have been erected by the Knights Hospitaller (Lost Villages of Liverpool part 2 by Derek Whale)
    There is reference to the cross being there in 1600.The Knights had land in Wulveton (Woolton) in 1189.(History of Much Woolton,The Woolton Society,1975)

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    could it be the Calderstones???
    Yes

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    I'm led to believe this is the oldest statue in Liverpool...guess its location?

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/...5b080de09c.jpg

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    Top of Town Hall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    I'm led to believe this is the oldest statue in Liverpool...guess its location?

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/...5b080de09c.jpg
    I think there is one in the city centre,which is older?( must check though!)

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    Do we get any clues yet, steve ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    Do we get any clues yet, steve ?
    He's on a gee gee!

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    Well, my suggestion was to be the equestrian statue of George III,in London rd,which was erected,by public subscription,in 1822!( and though he was rather unpopular,at the time,it, unusually, never seems to have suffered any vandalism!?) But, on checking out George's candidate,Minerva,I could only assume it was, a couple of years older,as the town hall itself, was erected in 1820! So that's in the lead,at the moment....unless somebody knows better?!

    A couple of pic's courtesy of L.R.O.

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    Hmm... George III in Monument Place (London Road) was the 1820s. That's the earliest equestrian statue I can think of.

    The oldest ones on Merseyside would probably be the Bidston Hill carvings.

    Edit: Beaten by Wsteve55, rats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNASHER View Post
    No date for Hunt's Cross.
    Monks well is said to be about 600yrs old.
    Woolton Cross is thought to have been erected by the Knights Hospitaller (Lost Villages of Liverpool part 2 by Derek Whale)
    There is reference to the cross being there in 1600.The Knights had land in Wulveton (Woolton) in 1189.(History of Much Woolton,The Woolton Society,1975)
    Both much older than George III, or Minerva, But monuments/statues? I'll have to be a bit more specific,in future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    Hmm... George III in Monument Place (London Road) was the 1820s. That's the earliest equestrian statue I can think of.

    The oldest ones on Merseyside would probably be the Bidston Hill carvings.

    Edit: Beaten by Wsteve55, rats!
    But both by George!!

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    Nelson memorial in Springfield Park close to Alder Hey is dated around 1805
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    Nelson memorial in Springfield Park close to Alder Hey is dated around 1805
    Hi Mandy,
    you've moved into top position with that one! Any pic's? In fact,it's reminded me of the Nelson monument,in Exchange flags! I wonder what the date is for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Hi Mandy,
    you've moved into top position with that one! Any pic's? In fact,it's reminded me of the Nelson monument,in Exchange flags! I wonder what the date is for that?
    I'm back at Alder Hey on Thursday so I'll try to get a pic then
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Hi Mandy,
    you've moved into top position with that one! Any pic's? In fact,it's reminded me of the Nelson monument,in Exchange flags! I wonder what the date is for that?
    Wiki dates Nelson monument in Exchange flags as 1813
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Hi Mandy,
    you've moved into top position with that one! Any pic's? In fact,it's reminded me of the Nelson monument,in Exchange flags! I wonder what the date is for that?
    can't sleep with toothache so heres a pic I found of Nelson's Memorial



    http://www.liverpoolmonuments.co.uk/...elsonob01.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    can't sleep with toothache so heres a pic I found of Nelson's Memorial
    But this neither a Monument nor a Statue ie its a memorial stone.

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    Hmm... I think a memorial stone can be classed as a monument. Quite often masons who do headstones are called 'monumental masons'.

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    There is a bible thick book on Liverpool's sculptures and monuments as well as a website which can find you the answer for definite.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

    Updated weekly with old and new pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    can't sleep with toothache so heres a pic I found of Nelson's Memorial



    http://www.liverpoolmonuments.co.uk/...elsonob01.html
    Don't think I've ever seen that before,Mandy,what does it commemorate? I've tried looking it up on mapedia,but it wouldn't load!

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