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    Hi All


    We are in the process of creating a website dedicated to Liverpool people who where connected to either of the two world wars. We are hoping that people will submit a short story about their ancestor. You can add more than one ancestor, but please add them single as the list is alphabetical. you can include a photo with your story.

    If you only know your ancestors name and they they served in the wars, then please add their name and we will credit it to you.

    for example.

    John Brown
    served during WW2

    submitted by his great nephew Jack Hughes.


    Your ancestor does not have had to have died in the wars, they can have served and come back home, been prisoners of war, Merchant Navy. home guard, air wardens, police firemen on duty, victims of bombing etc. anything that connects them to the wars and to Liverpool is fine.

    We are also hoping to find stories about women during the wars, nurses, munitions workers, again anything that connects them to Liverpool and the wars. When we say connects to Liverpool we want anyone born or living in Liverpool at some time, or people who where stationed or worked in Liverpool.

    Anything you submit will be credited to yourself. The site will not be profit making and no charges apply to anyone. It is there to honour and remember the people of Liverpool during the two world wars. We have had a good response so far so please be patient with us and we will reply to you. The site is not online yet, we are looking at 4-5 weeks before it is up and running. Once it is online you can still submit your ancestors.

    If you are interested then please email us at wartimeliverpool@yahoo.com


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    Hi Spike,

    I've just had a quick look at your site, wartimeliverpool
    You've put quite a bit of work in already.
    It looks interesting.

    Keep up the good work.

    Tony

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    Will do, great idea Tony and Ged.

    Mart
    Started the Old Swan Website:

    http://oldswan.piczo.com/?cr=5

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    Tony's done all the work up to now, a great idea and i'll help where I can, I can see it getting busy. Personally I had two grandads that were incapacitated due to WWI and died afterwards due to this so are not marked on war graves as dying during the war but certainly early in life because of it.

    Well done Tony.
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    We have the 3 brothers in the family - all young men in their 20's who all went down on the same ship. Their names have been mentioned in a film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    We have the 3 brothers in the family - all young men in their 20's who all went down on the same ship. Their names have been mentioned in a film.
    What a waste of life. How would a mother come to terms with that. They were a special breed in them days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    What a waste of life. How would a mother come to terms with that. They were a special breed in them days.
    The weird thing was that their father had gone down at sea too - off the coast of NewFoundland !

    The mother was left with one remaining son & daughter.

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    thanks to Ken Berry on this forum, he gave us some very interesting and helpful information regarding this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    The weird thing was that their father had gone down at sea too - off the coast of NewFoundland !

    The mother was left with one remaining son & daughter.
    Jeez, when you hear of these personal stories from the war, it really brings it home to you the futility of it all.

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    4 Fagan brothers, no relation to me that I know of but from my old area, all went, found by Spike when he was looking up the Eldon St war memorial.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

    Updated weekly with old and new pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    4 Fagan brothers, no relation to me that I know of but from my old area, all went, found by Spike when he was looking up the Eldon St war memorial.
    It was three brothers Ged, unless ive missed one.

    here they are http://www.freewebs.com/eldonmemww1/notonmemorial.htm


    These stories should be added, dont let them go unremembered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    It was three brothers Ged, unless ive missed one.

    here they are http://www.freewebs.com/eldonmemww1/notonmemorial.htm


    These stories should be added, dont let them go unremembered.
    Thanks for that Spike. A bloody tragedy.

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    I had an uncle who was torpedoed three times. The last time he was the longest survivor alone on a raft. An American sailor beat him in the end somewhere in the Pacific. Lost two great uncles in the First World War too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I had an uncle who was torpedoed three times. The last time he was the longest survivor alone on a raft. An American sailor beat him in the end somewhere in the Pacific. Lost two great uncles in the First World War too.
    Submit them Pablo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Submit them Pablo
    I'll have to find out more info. Don't know their names or units. I shall find out though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I'll have to find out more info. Don't know their names or units. I shall find out though.
    If you find their names Pablo I could have a look for you, just PM when you have them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I had an uncle who was torpedoed three times. The last time he was the longest survivor alone on a raft. An American sailor beat him in the end somewhere in the Pacific.
    That is a great story Pablo, do you know much about it. Even his name with that story can be added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    That is a great story Pablo, do you know much about it. Even his name with that story can be added.
    His name was Jimmy Kenny. He served in the Royal Navy during the war and until the late sixties. He was on submarines. I shall try and get more info.

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    hi there , just a shot in the dark , was wondering if i could get any advice on searching for my ancestors, my grandfather peter burns worked on the docks,im estimating he would of been born around 1930, maybe worked there in the 60,s i never met him he is now deceased, which i think happened before i was born. i dont have contact with my grandmother any more, she lives in aintree. i left liverpool when i was only 9, i am desperate to find out my roots. I have a lot of memories of liverpool, and miss seeing the docks my father used to take me to when i was a child. big up to the scousers. would be grateful of any useful info xxxxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcia2008 View Post
    hi there , just a shot in the dark , was wondering if i could get any advice on searching for my ancestors, my grandfather peter burns worked on the docks,im estimating he would of been born around 1930, maybe worked there in the 60,s i never met him he is now deceased, which i think happened before i was born. i dont have contact with my grandmother any more, she lives in aintree. i left liverpool when i was only 9, i am desperate to find out my roots. I have a lot of memories of liverpool, and miss seeing the docks my father used to take me to when i was a child. big up to the scousers. would be grateful of any useful info xxxxx
    Ask Ged,Martin or Mr Spike. Good luck!!

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    has anyone spotted any info on george morton and madeline nee thorpe on there?? They died in december 1940 at eldon place.???

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    Hi Spike, this thread makes great reading. I don't know whether my story will fit but here goes. I was born in my Aunts house on Herbert st. right next to Walton Hospital, April 17 1941, just in time for the May blitz. However my mum, two sisters and brother lived in the end house on Romley st. When the sirens went off they would hide under the stairs instead of going out to the shelter. Then when me mam said it was time for me to show myself she took the kids and went to my aunts house on Herbert st.where I was born. Anyway when they eventually got back to the house on Romley st. the back of the house had been blown in by a bomb and all the debris from the blast had finished up under the stairs. They would have all been killed. Shortly after this my Grandma (Nena) packed us all up and we were evacuated to Clay in Wales. Fortunately we all survived the war. My Dad was in Africa when I was born and he was captured and shipped to Italy. He managed to escape and travel to Switzerland where he stayed until he was demobbed.

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    Sorry Oldscouse I missed your post.

    Yes this is what we are after.

    I will pm you.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Tony's done all the work up to now, a great idea and i'll help where I can, I can see it getting busy. Personally I had two grandads that were incapacitated due to WWI and died afterwards due to this so are not marked on war graves as dying during the war but certainly early in life because of it.

    Well done Tony.
    You wont be saying Well done when you adding them all to the site

    Your two Grandad's stories are the type im hoping will be added, along with many others.

    Yes we remember those that died at war and rightly so, but lets not forget the others as well. You can of course add people who died at war also.

    While researching many people have contacted me telling me about their relatives service and jobs during the wars, and of their own time as evacuee's ( have I spelt that right ? ) so why not have a site with all these stories on? I think it will be very interesting.

    So c,mon people send your stories, ask anyone you know, lets remember them all.
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    Default They should not be forgotten.

    This is a great idea.
    BUT Given my own issue at the moment. What did they fight and struggle FOR?
    Their fight goes on, does it not?
    This might just be the very thing to get folk out voting again.

    So long as we do not forget that war is Hell and that it is better to be courageous while alive and not to 'earn' such an accolade by dying first.

    Are all our Victories behind us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    This is a great idea.
    BUT Given my own issue at the moment. What did they fight and struggle FOR?
    Their fight goes on, does it not?
    This might just be the very thing to get folk out voting again.

    So long as we do not forget that war is Hell and that it is better to be courageous while alive and not to 'earn' such an accolade by dying first.

    Are all our Victories behind us?
    I hope our leaders pull our guys home. That's all I want.

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    Stan Boardman the comic was evacuated to Wrexham during WW2, when the family returned to Liverpool a bombing campaign began. during a raid the shelter they where in suffered a hit. Stans's older brother Tommy aged 6 was injured, sadly he died from his injuries.

    http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_...sualty=3117641

    Anyone know Stan? would like to ask him if he would consider submitting his story. I never knew this story before, makes you think about his using the " GERRRRMANS BOMBED OUR CHIPPY " in his act.
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    great idea Spike & Ged,
    my great granddad died in 1917 but I'm not sure how as I can't find his death anywhere except the CWGC site........he also seemed too old to be going to war,he was about 49 when he died
    he was born & lived in Liverpool so I'm not sure why his name is on a memorial in Carlilse

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    The Fusehill War Hospital was in Carlisle. It is now a campus, but the original building is still there. The hospital was a General hospital and taken over for wounded and sick servicemen during both world wars.

    So your Great Grandad would have been moved here probably from action abroad, and sadly his injuries or illness would lead to his death. So he is not on a memorial in Carlise he is buried in the cemetery there. He will have a CWGC headstone.

    The cemetery is corporation run and includes sections for both world wars.

    a photo here http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_...2078115&mode=1

    Have just looked on SDGW disc and your Great Grandad is listed as

    John Thompson Reay, Royal Defence Corps

    Formerly 23711, Liverpool regiment ( Kings )

    Born, enlisted and resided in Liverpool.

    Will see if I can find anything on him, no promising though.

    You can still add him if this is all you know
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    There is no Medal card for John Thompson Raey.

    Royal Defence Corps units only ever served in the UK, and his King's service may have also been UK only. So there would be no medal card as you recieved war medals for service abroad. So its safe to say he served here. Probably he signed up with the KIngs and due to his age they deemed he would be better serving at home, so he is transfered to the Royal defence corps. I dont know much about them but will have a look.
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    Hey mandy just found your family tree, great work

    The Royal Defence Corps was formed from the Home Service Garrison Battalions of 18 Regiments. It was made up of old soldiers who were beyond the age set for combatant service, or those who were not fit for duty overseas, sometimes as the result of wounds received on active service. The Corps was similar in some ways to the Home Guard of the Second World War. Its job was to guard railways, tunnels, roads and ports, thus relieving other troops for front line service.

    The main difference is that the RDC was whole time service in wartime and the volunteers were part time. The RDC grew out of the National Reserve which formed supernumerary companies to Territorial units.

    The Home Guard was therefore the volunteers successors, the RDC returned to the Regiments in WW2 and formed the 30th Bn of most line Regiments. In the inter war period they were renamed the National Defence Companies
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