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    I remember the last day it ran. I worked for Blakes the Ford dealer in Hardman St. The boss there a Mr. Stanley Blake Reece was a train enthusiast and he hired buses to transport the whole company, all branches and closed up shop to take us on the last ride.
    We went the full length and back. Can't imagine todays businessmen doing a thing like that.



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    I am too young for the overhead, but I do remember Blakes in Hardman street
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    I remember the stumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    I am too young for the overhead, but I do remember Blakes in Hardman street
    I remember both and Blakes were a cowboy company - I bougt a new car of them once and the big ends went after 2,000 miles...in France. They didn't want to know. I hate the *******s. It took 18 months of legal action to get anywhere. I'm glad they went belly up - they deserved to.

    Now, the overhead I just about remember. You could see the trains through the sleepers underneath. It was a dirty brown colour. I remember the cranes taking it down too.
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    How old are you again Watership ?

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    My Dad used to travel on it from the Dingle to the north end docks for quite a few years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE View Post
    I remember the stumps
    What are the stumps FKoE ??

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    I remember Blakes very well.

    Not the 'Overhead' tho' .. (thank God there's at least something I'm not old enough to remember !!) Ha!

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    Oh tep, I remember the overhead, I remember Blakes in hardman St. and also Bold St. and me dad did his aprentiship (?) in Blakes, Safety Lane. So there! Lol. Nowt wrong with Blakes there watership down. Wouldn't be ya heavy foot and lack of oil that caused ya meltdown would it?

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    Shy, when did you work for Blakes?

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    bobbymac,
    1954-1959, I was at Hardman St. didn't know many people from Safety Lane. I think whoever ran that place had a screw loose though, Safety Lane were distributers for "Cyclemaster" it was a little engine built into a wheel to put on a push bike. Why would a car company this big sell a piece of c r a p like that
    I did know the manager who was there at one time because he came to Hardman St. Percy Gooding was his name.
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    Omg Shy, I remember the 'Cyclemaster' all those old guys who couldn't pedal any more had them. Used to see lots of them at Newsham Pk. gate and Tuebrook when the Automatic knocked off.
    My girl friend worked in the office of Blakes in Bold St. starting around 58.'till sometime in the mid 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbymac View Post
    Oh tep, I remember the overhead, I remember Blakes in hardman St. and also Bold St. and me dad did his aprentiship (?) in Blakes, Safety Lane. So there! Lol. Nowt wrong with Blakes there watership down. Wouldn't be ya heavy foot and lack of oil that caused ya meltdown would it?
    Blakes a good company? Read what I wrote. They were cowboys. No idea of customer service and once they had your money they couln't give a hoot. They epitomised everything that was wrong with British service and industry. Cowboys, Sharks. Your Dad din't deal with them from my angle. People will tell themselves lies when it comes to their weekly pack packet.

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    Did you ever think Watership, that only you recieved bad customer service, because you maybe were an obnoxious customer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    What are the stumps FKoE ??
    .. the stumps were what was left of the supports years after the Overhead was demolished.

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    I'm not getting into a slanging match about a company I worked for almost 50 years ago. Just to say that if it was a new car as you say, the manufacturer is responsible for accepting warranty claims. If it broke down in France why would you go back to Blakes with it, must have been hundreds of dealerships nearer?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE View Post
    .. the stumps were what was left of the supports years after the Overhead was demolished.
    .. oh right, I get what you mean now.

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    Watership, I agree, I must be the epitomy of senility, in that I find those posts of yours which are close to your heart are very interesting.But I still think that if you had so much trouble with your warranty, there must have been more than you're letting on. Not that it matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    I'm not getting into a slanging match about a company I worked for almost 50 years ago. Just to say that if it was a new car as you say, the manufacturer is responsible for accepting warranty claims. If it broke down in France why would you go back to Blakes with it, must have been hundreds of dealerships nearer?.
    The dealer is responsible, not the maker. Any problems you deal with who sold you the product - any product.

    The big ends went at 2,000 miles. The French Ford dealer could not repair the engine and sent it back with the engine in peices in the boot. The AA took it back and dropped it off at Blakes with the front smashed in.

    Blakes said they would repair the engine and I would have to claim off my insurance to fix the grill. I said you can **** off. I would have been OK with new engine and grill at the time. I went to lawyers who said they could get my money back. I said go for it. Blakes said they would charge parking fees. Ford did nothing as it was not their problem. I was in contact and they just wanted to know what was going on. I asked for the report from Ford of Europe. They never sent it after many requests. I again asked and the man I was dealing with was on hols. His replacement sent it. The engine was used (in a new car) and the crank was down to maximim turning. The French could not fix the engine at all as the crank was scrap..

    I gave my lawyers the report. They said we have them by the goolies now. The case date was set and then Blakes settled out of court with the cost of the car and more on top and my lawyers fees. They took me to the courts doorstep, knowing the big man could do that and the small man may not be able to afford it - how many did they screw and got away with it?. I stuck out.

    They were amateur arseholes who once they had your money coudn't give a hoot. I'm glad they went under. COWBOYS. Everything that was wrong with British service and industry they were it.

    One company I was with were going to get 12 fleet cars. Ford and GM were the choices. I convinced them to go GM. One other guy I knew was in the process of signing a fleet deal, Ford were in the lead - just, I convinced him not to - 200 cars.

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    Crazy! My poor eyesight had never managed to spot those names on the tunnel! What a fantastic piece of masonry!! What happened to the garage on the station site? Looks closed down and disused now - I know some guys from Sub-brit got shown round the station site and it was being used as a workshop (photos somewhere online) but that was a while back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    You could see the trains through the sleepers underneath. .
    Funny. I thought the LOR

    was unique because the underneath of the tracks (the bridge?) was sealed- making it a Docker's Umbrella, and preventing litter falling down to street level

    like in Chicago. So you wouldn't have been able to look up and see the underneath of the train.

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