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    Cool Liverpool's last tram...

    hello folks...

    it has come to my attention that the last tram that rumbled accross the streets of Liverpool has ben spotted in a transport museum in Boston USA.

    it is in need of repair and i for one would like to see it back in Liverpool and restored to its full glory in time for the ')* celebrations....

    it is a part of the city's history so i think that we should make some sort of representation to the museum to ask can it be returned to our great city....


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    any thoughts, comments or Photographs...

    I have one but have not worked out how to downlos=ad it yet, so if anyone has any ideas, please let me know...

    thanks everyone...

    johnlemmon...

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    There are restored trams elsewhere, see Rons tramsite.

    http://members.ispwest.com/ronsmith/...eservation.htm

    The tram you refer to in the U.S.A. is in Maine, not Boston, It would probably cost way too much to make it worthwhile transporting.
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    Cool last tram in Liverpool..

    Thanks for that link shytalk, great information...I will email Ron shortly...

    cheers...

    Lemmo...

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    Not all of Merseysides trams have disappeared, National Museums Liverpool hold an old Liverpool tram in their street transport collection. The tram had formed part of the Large Objects Museum in the 1980's but following its closure it went into storage. Although not currently on public display its hoped some of the collection will form part of the planned new Museum of Liverpool at the Pier Head.

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    Cool last tram...

    Thanks Scousemouse...

    it will be good to see some of the old trams & trains & buses back on show... will they be intercactive do you know, a lot of museums are now doing interactive stuff for the kids...

    Lemmo...

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    I posted on this over at www.scouseology.com a while ago:

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    Cool liverpool's last tram..

    thanks Kev...

    I have a picture of that one...

    I have a friend in Canada whose grandad drove that last tram an when he visited it at the museum (not the main site), and he changed the number back to what was the opiginal route... and he found a ticket stubb from the last journey, collectors items indeed..

    Lemmo...

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    Cool last tram...

    what was the number???

    lemmo...?

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    Guess it was the 6A - Pier Head to Bowring Park!
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    The last tram's, (convoy of thirteen altogether) did follow the 6a Route from the Pier Head to Bowring Park, then on to the Edge Lane Depot. The actual number of the 'Last Tram' was No.293 which carried civic dignitaries. This tram, (Green Goddess) was shipped over to the US to become a museum piece at Kennebunkport, Main, in 1958.
    Last edited by Norm NZ; 09-01-2006 at 12:34 AM. Reason: To correct spelling!

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    Cool last tram...



    how do you know all this nznorm???

    Lemmo...

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    Default OLD BABY GRAND TRAM 245

    Just some info that Ex liverpool Corpy Baby grand tram 245 was moved from the Merseyside Museums store last year and is now under extensive restoration at Wirral Transport Museum

    http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/a...cle.asp?id=546

    http://www.mtps.co.uk/245/245.html

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    Rob

    Thanks for the info and the great pics.

    Now I just hope I can last out till I can see it back in all its glory.

    I lived in the West Derby road area. I am right in saying that the No 10c went to Church St and the 10d to Dale St. I am sure the number 10 went to the Pier Head.
    Can anyone confirm that.

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    Any bus with C went down Church Street, and D was Dale Street, and E a short journey, and they all went to the Pier Head (Not like today, dumping you off at Lewis's!)
    The fares were 3d, 6d, 9d, 1/- in the 1960s. (6d = 2.5p).
    Arriva's lowest fare today is 1.40, but I don't care - I've got a travel pass now!
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    be great to see it back

    but i know that its been tried many times, and the museum never want it to leave

    mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Any bus with C went down Church Street, and D was Dale Street, and E a short journey, and they all went to the Pier Head (Not like today, dumping you off at Lewis's!)
    The fares were 3d, 6d, 9d, 1/- in the 1960s. (6d = 2.5p).
    Arriva's lowest fare today is 1.40, but I don't care - I've got a travel pass now!

    Ah but that include trams ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phredd View Post
    Ah but that include trams ?
    I didn't know you were asking about trams.
    You said you used to get the 10C, 10D and 10.
    If they were on trams, then I assume the same rule applied.

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    From the 1953 Timetable 10/10c CHURCH ST,
    10 Finished at South Castle Street
    10D DALE ST.
    10C /10D at Pier Head

    Though a most D routes later went outward via Tithebarn /Chapel st when Dale Street went one way.

    When i get some time I'll try and scan some old routemaps if anyone interested

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    When I was little we used to get the number 10 bus from Queen Victorias monument (is that South castle Street) ? We used to go up to the baths, me an' me mates, on Prescot Road. On the other side off where the Greyhound pub is.
    We went their 'cos it had a high diving board and Cornwallis Street and Stebble Street never had one.

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    Default ROUTE 10 SOUTH CASTLE STREET

    Yeah Maria, Queen Vics monument Is South Castle Street.

    The 10 26/27 4/5 used to depart from there rather than the Pier Head


    Rob

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    Liverpool's last horse Bus.



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    That's fantastic Gerard. You hardly ever see any pictures of these horse busses.
    Well, I havn't anyway.

    Great picture.

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    My son just found another interesting site about Liverpool Trams >>>>

    http://www.trolleybus.net/subhtml/liverpool.htm

    Dont think it has been posted before. Hope you like it.

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    Great pix Phredd, thanks.
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    those guys with the horse bus look like cops from keystone. They,ve god gobs on like some bus drivers round here

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    Wink Trams Through Old Swan

    There is a short clip of a video on youtube, I placed from a video of trams around Liverpool in the 50's. It focuses on Old Swan as that's where I live.

    It has footage from the Pier Head and the suburbs. The Video is available commercialy called "No Trams to Pier Head", if your are a Transport enthusiast, or like me interested in seeing how life was in Liverpool years ago, it's brilliant. The Video in full, includes footage of the Last Tram etc. and lasts for 90 mins, all taken ( on his cine camera ) by a man called Alfred H. Jacob.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptjQDreSQBM
    Last edited by hmtmaj; 01-14-2008 at 12:55 AM.

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    Hi Everyone

    I see there was some mention of my Liverpool Tram Site here.

    Please note that IspWest shut down last year and my site is now at ....

    http://liverpolitan.im/tram/

    regards,

    Ron Smith
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    Hi Everyone

    Re my Liverpool Tram site, the site had to be moved last year.

    Its now at :-

    http://liverpolitan.im/tram/

    regards

    Ron Smith

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    To think we've had them and lost them. Criminal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_S View Post
    Hi Everyone

    Re my Liverpool Tram site, the site had to be moved last year.

    Its now at :-

    http://liverpolitan.im/tram/

    regards

    Ron Smith

    Wow, an Isle of Man domain name. That's a rare sight.

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