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    You should post these in Kevs 'the way we were' thread too Lindy


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    I've got some good old photies, but they are fixed down in the album and I can't rip them out of place !

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    Oh aye they'd be murder to scan too...


    If you have a digi camera, you could photograph the individual pages, and upload the images to your pc though ?

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    Peel Holdings wants to transform the Wirral side of the Mersey into a futuristic landscape of glittering skyscrapers.
    Mr Ryder promised flats in the residential towers - set to stand up to 40-storeys high - would not be restricted to the luxury market.
    "It's a tremendous plan and programme - a long term development. We are talking vast buildings - on the scale of Dubai and things like that."
    Elements announced include an indoor ski slope, an extreme sports centre, a 4,000-seat convention centre and luxury hotels
    "There would be iconic buildings on the waterfront that mean Liverpool would look at a totally different river-scape."
    And much much more here.

    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html

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    A mini Dubia eh? Sheesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Peel Holdings wants to transform the Wirral side of the Mersey into a futuristic landscape of glittering skyscrapers.
    They will wants docks filling to generate land to make money. Look at the canal link (Peel are pulling the strings), which on the 11th hour they sent in a proposal to fill in a dock and make 4 million on the land generated.

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    This is of the Cammell Laird site and is a completely different proposal to what Peel Holdings are proposing.Peel are trying to buy this site off Reddington Finance who are proposing this development at a cost of £2 Billion,Peels proposal is said to be worth £4 Billion and that may be just for starters they reckon.There is 6 towers in this vision.

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    So this could drag on for a very long time then.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    So this could drag on for a very long time then.....
    Yes this a 30 year vision from start to finish.

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    I've heard stories of a mini- Empire state building, a mini Canary Wharf tower etc .... excellent a model village, in Seacombe on Wallasey docks .... FILL 'EM IN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post


    This is of the Cammell Laird site and is a completely different proposal to what Peel Holdings are proposing.Peel are trying to buy this site off Reddington Finance who are proposing this development at a cost of £2 Billion,Peels proposal is said to be worth £4 Billion and that may be just for starters they reckon. There is 6 towers in this vision.
    A nice project and I like it. They are even building a new canal too. What do Peel want to do? Fill in the basins no doubt.

    All of this doesn't make sense. Here they are building an island - OK I like the green part, great - when they have filled in docks at Birkenhead when most of the waterways and docks between the two towns are rife for immedate development. Why get rid of waterways and then make others? Wirral should tell Peel no filling in of docks or waterways will be considered whatsoever.
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    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Wirral should tell Peel no filling in of docks or waterways will be considered whatsoever.
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    This development is about a year old and it's by Reddington Finance not Peel Holdings that's a whole new development,Peel are trying to buy this site off them though so they can do it up themselves,the Reddington proposal is said to be worth £2 billion and the council wasn't keen on the island that they wanted to build.The Wirral Waters project will be on the local news tonight and I think it's going to build around the docks and not fill them in.I've already seen the BBC mention it so it's definitely on there and I'm sure a £4 Billion project should make it onto Granada make sure you're all watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    This development is about a year old and it's by Reddington Finance not Peel Holdings that's a whole new development,Peel are trying to buy this site off them though so they can do it up themselves,the Reddington proposal is said to be worth £2 billion,the Wirral Waters project will be on the local news tonight I've already seen the BBC mention it so it's definitely on there and I'm sure a £4 Billion project should make it to the Granada channel as well.
    Peel have plans for the Lairds site on the river. Peel want to buy up the Lairds site, so they can put their own project in place. What is their intentions?

    We don't really know, but we know Reddingtons. I don't tust Peel as their record is poor. From the Wirrals point of view. it is better the Birkenhead docks are developed, which Peel own, as the water is there, rather than built an artificial island in the river - although on the surface I do like the Reddington Lairds site plan. What may happen is that a top development may be at Lairds and the rest of the docks left to rot, or left to dock filling cheap fly-by-night developers buildingh tickt-tacky red and yellow bricked buildings.

    Wirral must learn from Liverpool, where there have been big mistakes, and stop filling in docks and have some firm plan on what to do with them. People like living around water. Peel want to generate land by dock in-fill, that is clear. I prefer the Reddington plan, as I don't trust Peel. They will come in with last minute admendments in-fill as they have done with West Waterloo Dock.

    Look below:

    "Liverpool docks may be put up for sale again Aug 14 2006

    By Liam Murphy Daily Post Staff

    THE business group which bought the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company less than 12 months ago could soon be up for sale itself.

    Peel Holdings is looking for possible purchasers to take up to a 49% stake in the Peel Ports company, it was reported yesterday.

    Owned by Manchester millionaire John Whittaker, Peel bought MDHC after being given the go-ahead by the Office of Fair Trading last August.

    In September, 2005, Peel, owners of Liverpool John Lennon Airport, the Manchester Ship Canal and the Trafford Centre, assumed ownership of the company, and with it a vast estate of docklands and real estate spanning some 2,000 acres in a £770m deal.

    The move catapulted the company into becoming a major player in the UK, and Peel Ports now handles 40m tonnes a year.

    Yesterday, it was reported that Peel Ports had appointed Rothschild investment bank to investigate a potential sale of almost half the company.

    It is believed they are hoping to take advantage of an upsurge in interest in infrastructure assets. "

    The bold means fill in the docks and waterways and make a killing on the land they generate destroying our heritage and history. Peel bought MDHC less than a year ago and now they want to make a killing selling 49% with a tempter top the buyer(s) that they will make a kiling from land generated by dock-infilling. Most importantly, what the people of Liverpool and the Wirral need is:

    1. A cast in concrete guarantee that no docks or waterways will be filled in. The City on the Water, the Hamburg, the Amsterdam, the Venice of Northern Europe we were promised, will not materialise at this rate.

    2. Exacavting of infilled docks when proposals are submitted to ensure the City on the Water is realised. Docks as: Harrington, Toxteth, Trafalgar, Victoria. Morpeth and Bidston.

    Look what Hamburg do, Europe's second largest seaport, and they are 68 miles from the sea. If waterways were to be filled in, in Amsterdam or Hamburg there would be riots. Does Liverpool and the Wirral have to lack vision and not value the legacy of the waterways? We are going to end up with a Manchester or Birmingham, not a water based city and towns.
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    Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
    longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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    But we are not Hamburg, we are not Amsterdam, we are not even Salford Quays ....

    Did'nt Cardiff fill a few duckponds in to create its new iconic waterfront ? http://www.visitcardiffbay.info/

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