Mersey Ferry Liverpool terminal's Carbuncle award

[scouse smurf]

10 million quid just for a waiting room for ferry crossing punters...sheeeesh! Liverpool council seriously needs investigating.

And I don't believe Gladstone Conservatory cost the same to revamp either.

According to the architect website, it cost 2.75m

http://www.lep-architects.co.uk/proj...servatory.html

[George]

According to the architect website, it cost 2.75m

http://www.lep-architects.co.uk/proj...servatory.html

Righty O,so that means 11.25m on the rest of the park...now tell me what cost that amount to revamp in the park?

[scouse smurf]

Righty O,so that means 11.25m on the rest of the park...now tell me what cost that amount to revamp in the park?

, their site only mentioned the pavillions at 1.1m

http://www.lep-architects.co.uk/proj...nley_park.html

It's got Birkenhead and Sefton parks there too, which cost 1.5m and 1.3m respectfully

[George]

Taken from the Liverpool council Website....

"Funding for Stanley Park has come from the NRF (Neighbourhood Renewal Fund), European Union Objective One and HMRI (Housing Market Renewal Initiative) and Liverpool Football Club. The total cost of the project is around ?14 million pounds, all of which has come from external funding support."

So upto now we have...
?2.75m for the conserbatory
?1.1m for the Pavillions,Stone wall and Bridges.

That leaves us with....10.15m

itemised projects which have been done?
The lake
The pathways
Shrubbery

[Howie]

Lets have the old Pier Head back!

I don't think anybody is saying that Kev. The area is improved with the new canal link and hard landscaping. It's just that the Ferry Terminal is poor - it's a hideous monstrosity. As I said before, compare it with the new Museum of Liverpool or new Hilton Hotel and see the contrast for yourself. They are both lovely buildings.

[irishseashipping.com]

I don't think anybody is saying that Kev. The area is improved with the new canal link and hard landscaping. It's just that the Ferry Terminal is poor - it's a hideous monstrosity. As I said before, compare it with the new Museum of Liverpool or new Hilton Hotel and see the contrast for yourself. They are both lovely buildings.

But was the canal necessary?

The logical terminal for canal boats should have been a marina in Prince's Dock.

John

[scouse smurf]

But was the canal necessary?

The logical terminal for canal boats should have been a marina in Prince's Dock.

John

I guess the powers that be just consider the albert dock the be all and end all of our city waterfront.

Gotta admit, when I went down to the canal for the first time the other month, I quite liked it. Really don't like the ferry terminal and there does seem to be too much paved open space but the canal looked quite good. Much better than it does in pictures

[lenka]

It looks like a tiger ready to jump.

[ItsaZappathing]

It looks like a tiger ready to jump.

It looks ugly as sin!!

[Malc-Downing]

It looks like a tiger ready to jump.

i think i should go get my eyes checked

[Howie]

It looks like a tiger ready to jump.

Someone said it made them think of the SuperLambBanana.

[petromax]

The Three Graces and the Liver birds stand at the edge of the city looking outwards as the 'figurehead' of a great and important port and city. their magnificent power and scale dominate the city and the river. The Pier Head is or should be a great and open space.

Anything of any size placed in the way of this set piece 'view' is not going to work.

As it happens, this building is a small building in comparison and it pathetically attempts to match the great scale of the Pier Head buildings; desperately trying to be different and bold and ends up just being half-arsed 'zany' - a bit like the similarly dumb and dinky little canal and odd hard landscape. This is a port for ships not a canal basin for put-puts.

Nevertheless and because the restauranteur had an existing lease, the building is two storeys and high enough to be a nuisance. Even poor old King Edward (??) can't see the water.

Together they make a nonsense of the space and worse; they split it up into small spaces that can't be used for much beyond a few hundred people.

The Albert Dock is not the be all and end of all of the waterfront and the link to it and this building is a seriously expensive mistake.

'Temporarily' board over the canal with massive baltic timbers and quietly leave them there.

[lenka]

I know you everybode have fun. But it's my opinion. And I think it looks so nice.

[lindylou]

I know you everybode have fun. But it's my opinion. And I think it looks so nice.

I can see what you mean.

there used to be kids toys called Transformers .. the shapes could transform into fierce animals.

this is the tiger one-

[Waterways]

Petromax, I had mixed views on the canal link. Go back to what was there before the Three Graces, George's Dock. Ideally, this should have been left in place with the Three Graces behind the dock. The Three Graces with boast bobbing up and down in front would have been a better setting. The Three Graces, three monolithic blocks, created dead space around them which, despite many expensive mistakes, has always remained dead space. The Three Graces can be merged more into the city by eliminating the wide urban motorway, The Strand. The space in front to the river is wind swept most of the time and there is little that can be done there, as people naturally move from the wind. The success of the Albert Dock is that the warehouses shelter people from the river wind, with covered walkways right up to the quays. The model that should be adopted in developing the remainder of the docks.

The Canal Link does split the Pier Head space up and acts as a drain against flooding from the river. The put-puts are welcome, however all docks should be back to deep water to accommodate historic, visiting and tall ships. The city has let us down allowing a commercial outfit, Peel Holdings, rape our heritage. They are converting the dock system to an inland barge basins - not what our heritage is about. We need the likes of these in the old docks near the centre......

by Phillip G


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