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    Quote Originally Posted by knowhowe View Post
    A fat bloke was reciting poetry in there, I suspect it was Adrian Henry. I got offered a pound deal in the bogs but didn't know what it was. Such innocence...
    for your own private recital perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowhowe View Post
    Ah, O'Connor's. That was probably the first pub in town I got taken to as a green north-ender. A fat bloke was reciting poetry in there, I suspect it was Adrian Henry. I got offered a pound deal in the bogs but didn't know what it was. Such innocence...
    As a clued up south-ender I knew exactly what O'Connors Tavern was about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowhowe View Post
    Ah, O'Connor's. That was probably the first pub in town I got taken to as a green north-ender. A fat bloke was reciting poetry in there, I suspect it was Adrian Henry. I got offered a pound deal in the bogs but didn't know what it was. Such innocence...
    That definitely was performance poetry. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    That definitely was performance poetry. . .

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    Hi guys, and Happy New Year 2010!

    A few updates on the site of St Phillip's Church, Hardman Street.

    St. Philip's Church was not on the site of the Fly in the Loaf pub, as we originally thought. It was on the land next to it, now occupied by the Victorian red bricked building leading up to South Hunter Street. Hopefully this should clear it up a little?


    Image 1 ^ Google earth view, with St Phillip's high-lighted.


    Image 2 ^ 1848 OS map extract of Hardman Street


    Image 3 ^ 1848 OS map large scale



    Image 4 ^ St Phillip's Church, Hardman Street

    The map above [image 3] confirms that this is the correct image for St Philip's [the original image was unsourced] ie: 8No. buttress walls along the nave, and 2No. at the ends. Also the entrance is in the right place, and the plan is consistant with a tower/ spire-less church.

    The image also shows the corner wall edge of what might be the Fly in the Loaf building? It has the same masonry keying as the photographs, although the window's do not correspond....and the lower glazing of the current building is not shown. All of which may have been added/ altered afterwards?



    Image 5 ^ Fly in the Loaf, Hardman Street


    Image 6 ^ Fly in the Loaf, Hardman Street

    In image 4 the building being constructed [demolished?] is possibly the current Fly in the Loaf building? It looks like it's sitting further back from the road than the church gates? I assume that when the church was demolished, the developers had built right up to the edge of where the churchyard wall and gates where? And then following on - the ground floor bay windows to the Fly in the Loaf were added later to meet the new neighboring building, and new street line?

    The red bricked building shown above is on the site of St Philip's Church.

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    I think you're right about the masonry quoining in number 4 corresponding with the fly in the loaf. Any idea at all when number 4 was drawn?

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    Default St Philips-Hardmann St

    that St Philip's church looks to have been slap bang on the site of an old haunt of mine, Stella Maris's 'Atlantic House' last known to be used as student accomodation for John Moores.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    I think you're right about the masonry quoining in number 4 corresponding with the fly in the loaf. Any idea at all when number 4 was drawn?
    No sorry, I've been trying to fix the date myself but without success. It lies somewhere between 1816-1882 [life of the church].

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