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    Went up to St Peter's Woolton this morning to annoy the locals from the tower.

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    Great pictures Cad. Snowing in Liverpool!

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    Not much has changed!

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    Looks like lego land that one Cad's

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    If i was loaded i would definately want to live in one of them sandstone houses off Allerton or Church Road. Small but alright for 1 or 2 people.

    Got a stronger bike too recently from the Giant shop in town so can cycle up there more as cheap bikes can't handle roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    I know this is a shot in dark but way back when Florence Nightingale was a lass..well 1976 actually but it feels that long ago I started my nurse training and we were billeted in a place in Woolton but I cant for the life of me remember what is was called.....or where about it was.....it was a big place and I remember the rooms we had only had partitions as walls that did not reach the ceiling...we were there for the first three months of training doing our PTS (preliminary training school) stuff......I know there was a pub close by but again the memory fails..any one any ideas where I mean.
    Hi Maggie May the place your thinking of was Woolton manor going up a very spooky dark lane up to the quarters ,and the pub opposite is the derby arms i used to pick my girlfriend up from there in 71 i wouln't go up the drive with my roof down, Johnny

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    A few pics of Menlove ave, L25
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    A few pics of Menlove ave, L25
    Menlove Avenue is a "new" road. Vale Road was the main road in and out Woolton and was formerly called "Folly Vale". The road had a bend in it and carried on towards town right at the location where John Lennons house is. On the site of his house was a row of cottages where my GG Grandfatherlived, right on that spot!

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    I wasn't sure if Menlove ave came under Woolton or Allerton but I looked up the address of 'Mendips' and it's listed as Woolton L25.

    According to what I've read in books, John Lennon had relatives living in a place called 'The Cottage' described as being on Vale rd around the corner from Mendips, and was attached to a farmhouse.

    Also, described was 'wasteland' at the end of the block from Mendips where John Lennon played as a kid - - would that be where the flats are now ? is the waste ground where the heights were built ?

    Have you ever heard of Blackgates Lane ? It's not listed in the A to Z or any maps I've looked at.
    Reading Julia Baird's book, she says they would often walk over to Menlove ave to visit John and his aunt at Mendips - they would often walk from the Springwood area (where they lived), down a country path at the side of Allerton Tower, which would bring them out on Menlove and on the opposite side of the road to the house. She called this country path Blackgates Lane. I've not heard of it before and can't find it on a map. I'm assuming it might be this public footpath on the attachments ?? does this footpath run up the side of the golf links or the back of Allerton Tower ?? I'm not too familiar with the area, but I know there is a dirt path right opposite New Heys school in the area where she lived (.. and where she went to school) which I'm assuming is this same path which takes you over to Menlove ?

    To the right of the pic - there's a sign for public footpath ( sorry it's a bit tiny in the distance ! it's by the tree)
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    Nice one Lindy.

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    Yes there are paths across the golf course that bring you out in that area. Paul and John used to walk that way from Fortlin Road.

    Lennons Uncle George (Mimi's Husband) worked at the family dairy which was in Allerton Road, just a few doors up from the pub as you turn off Menlove. The Dairy building is still there today.

    Woolton Library has some old maps and you may be able to see the names of these paths on those Linda.

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    Your right about the pathway Lindy, it ran parallel to Woolton Rd, from Mather Ave to Menlove Ave, the golf course was on the left and the 'rear' of Allerton Towers was on the right, it was known to us as 'the Backgates' (not Blackgates)but I don't think this was it's name , more than likely got it from the Caretakers cottage of Allerton Priory that was situated on the corner of the pathway and Allerton Rd. The path should show on early maps as a continuation of Heath Rd., from Mather Ave, crossing Allerton Rd and ending at Menlove Ave., The New Hays school was actually built on Fulton's Farm, which was also in that area. My wife lived in Ravenna Rd off Heath Rd, and after we married we lived in Hurstlyn Rd which is at the bottom of Forthlin Rd. so it's well know area for me. Cheers

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    Thanks for info Underworld and NZ.

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    Great to see that reading the book has inspired you Lindy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Great to see that reading the book has inspired you Lindy.
    I've read every book going on John Lennon, but found Julia Baird's story 'Imagine This' really interesting and a different perspective.I couldn't put it down and may read it through again !

    Maybe on a nice summer day I'll have a walk through the path from Springwood to Menlove - just to see. Had a quick look around there the other day while passing. Also, to have a look around Vale rd area.

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    Strawberry Field on Beaconsfield Road is not far too, nor Quarrybank school. In fact, into Woolton Village and you've got St. Peters church and the hall where they met at the garden fete in 1957.
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    Yeah, I've been there a few times.
    I've been to Allerton Tower park quite a few times in the past, but havn't seen the foot paths crossing alongside to Menlove.

    Julia Baird, talking about New Heys Grammar school, mentions the entrance having Tweedledee & Tweedledum. I was wondering what the significance was to the school ? Anyone know ? or have any photos ?

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    New Heys school is on the school page of my site. John didn't go there, did Julia?
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    Yes Julia went there.

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    Woolton Street from High Street towards the Coffee House pub in Woolton Village.

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    Woolton Library.



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    There are so many quaint sandstone houses and buildings in the village



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    Woolton Baths - currently under threat of closure due to the cuts



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    This nondescript car park, sunken within surrounding walls was once Historic Lodes Pond, a haven for wildlife to drink and swim.



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    Castle St - North side - off Quarry Street.



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    Castle Street - South Side, looking down Quarry Street.



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    The Coffee House and The Elephant on Woolton Street.



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    The Police Station and Court Room, behind which lies the old Quarry which we'll see later.



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    The Liverpool Corporation Water Works Tower and Reservoir at the top of Reservoir Road.



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    This Quarry was where the sandstone came from to build the Anglican Cathedral. A housing estate now stands in the hollow that was made off Quarry Street.



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    I first trod on this public footpath back in 1978 after seeing it as part of the first ever Magical History Tour as it was then called which was part of the 2nd ever Beatles Convention (held in Mr Pickwicks as was the first a year earlier) The mesh wasn't up then, nor the climbing plants so high but you still get a good view from the top over the Woolton rooftops. You can see the footpath behind the houses on the 3rd pic.



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    Rodick Street, Woolton in 1934 and today.




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    brilliant pics..........

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