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    many thanks chris
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    Hi MissInformed

    Another new book on the horizon is Ripperology: The Best of Ripperologist is to be published in March 2007 by Magpie Books, an imprint of Constable Robinson, in the UK and by Barnes & Noble in the US. The Editors of the Rip drew up a shortlist of the best articles to have appeared in our previous 72 issues, with the publishers selecting the final entrants. The 27 essays include "The Carrie Brown Murder Case" by Michael Conlon, "Elizabeth’s Story" by Daniel Olsson, "Kit, Kitty, Kitten" by Andy Aliffe, "The American Connection" by Carman Cumming, "Nikolay Vailiev" by Stepan Poberowsky, "Le Grand of the Strand" by Gerry Nixon, "Responses to the Ripper Murders" by L. Perry Curtis, "Cut-throat" by Karyo Magellan, and "Diosy and D'Onston" by yours truly, Christopher T. George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi MissInformed

    Another new book on the horizon is Ripperology: The Best of Ripperologist is to be published in March 2007 by Magpie Books, an imprint of Constable Robinson, in the UK and by Barnes & Noble in the US. The Editors of the Rip drew up a shortlist of the best articles to have appeared in our previous 72 issues, with the publishers selecting the final entrants. The 27 essays include "The Carrie Brown Murder Case" by Michael Conlon, "Elizabeth’s Story" by Daniel Olsson, "Kit, Kitty, Kitten" by Andy Aliffe, "The American Connection" by Carman Cumming, "Nikolay Vailiev" by Stepan Poberowsky, "Le Grand of the Strand" by Gerry Nixon, "Responses to the Ripper Murders" by L. Perry Curtis, "Cut-throat" by Karyo Magellan, and "Diosy and D'Onston" by yours truly, Christopher T. George.

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    Sounds great Chris!!
    I can see where my wages are gonna be spent in the next few months!

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    Chris - I'm off to West Ham tomorrow, as you know I had a pint in the Ten Bells before the Spurs game last month. Can you recommend any other pubs on Whitechapel Rd with a Ripper connection as well as the White Hart, I tried that link you emailed me but the site seemed to have been taken offline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    Chris - I'm off to West Ham tomorrow, as you know I had a pint in the Ten Bells before the Spurs game last month. Can you recommend any other pubs on Whitechapel Rd with a Ripper connection as well as the White Hart, I tried that link you emailed me but the site seemed to have been taken offline.
    Hi Steve

    Casebook was offline for a few days recently but you should be able to call up the link now. I would defer to Viper's knowledge of the Ripper-associated drinking holes. I hope we win the West Ham match. I will be watching at the Irish bar in Baltimore that I go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi Steve

    Casebook was offline for a few days recently but you should be able to call up the link now. I would defer to Viper's knowledge of the Ripper-associated drinking holes. I hope we win the West Ham match. I will be watching at the Irish bar in Baltimore that I go to.

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    Thanks Chris I have just had a look its a great site. Having done been in the Ten Bells and City Darts I have probably done the main two that are still standing but will go in the White Hart anyway. Our aim is to take the tube to Aldgate East early afternoon and see how far down Whitechapel Road we get as we hope to go to some of the old Krays hangouts as well. I bet you are looking forward to seeing a Reds game at a decent hour for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    Thanks Chris I have just had a look its a great site. Having done been in the Ten Bells and City Darts I have probably done the main two that are still standing but will go in the White Hart anyway. Our aim is to take the tube to Aldgate East early afternoon and see how far down Whitechapel Road we get as we hope to go to some of the old Krays hangouts as well. I bet you are looking forward to seeing a Reds game at a decent hour for a change.
    Thanks, Steve. I was amazed in the back cover pic by Adam Wood in Ripperologist 74 to realize that the Norman Foster building knicknamed the "Gherkin" actually towers over the Mitre Square where Catherine Eddowes was murdered.

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    I was re-reading 'Letters From Hell' last night, and looking at these amazing, clear photos/illustrations.

    If you are interested in the case, it is a must have!

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    The ITV drama from 1988 starring Michael Caine is on Crime TV now (Sky 531), I dont think I ever tire of watching this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    The ITV drama from 1988 starring Michael Caine is on Crime TV now (Sky 531), I dont think I ever tire of watching this.
    Hi Steve

    The 1988 "Jack the Ripper" starring Michael Caine as Inspector Abberline is one of the best treatments of the Ripper story even if it accepts the probably innaccurate Royal conspiracy theory to explain the murders. I am though a staunch Michael Caine fan so I might be a bit biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    The 1988 "Jack the Ripper" starring Michael Caine as Inspector Abberline is one of the best treatments of the Ripper story even if it accepts the probably innaccurate Royal conspiracy theory to explain the murders.
    Alfie knows what it's all about....
    The latest Mary Jane Kelly candidate is one who had a son named Arthur Sullivan by an Arthur Sullivan before she disappeared mysteriously....All documented....Since she and/or her family served the Earls of Carnarvon who were the same family as one Arthur Sullivan's famous friend and traveling companion, Lady Lindsay, I think By George we already have it, Master Wayne....

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    Just for the James Maybrick fans the public house he would drink in at times, the Poste House, on Cumberland Street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone_pilot View Post
    Just for the James Maybrick fans the public house he would drink in at times, the Poste House, on Cumberland Street.
    Well, er, allegedly. According to the Maybrick Diary, he drank there, at least as I read it, though whether the real James Maybrick did, or even if whomever hoaxed the Maybrick Diary did actually say he drank at the Poste House in Cumberland Street is a matter of debate -- it doesn't actually say that he took "refreshment" in the Poste House in Cumberland Street but just gives the name "Poste House." I think it is a mistake in the Diary because the place was known as the "Muck Midden" back then but there are those, even some who believe the Diary is a forgery, who say some other pub known informally as a "post house" may have been meant. The Post Office pub in School Lane has been proposed as a possible candidate.

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    LOL just go's to show how much i know

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    Caught an episode of Most Haunted the other week and according to our very own Derek Acorah there were two Rippers James Maybrick being one. He failed to name the second Ripper

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    Don't tell me, he went into a frenzied trance brought on by 'Sam'

    If you're looking for the other name, give Tom Slemen a call.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

    Updated weekly with old and new pics.

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    I thought he also named Pedachenko (sp?).

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    Hi all
    I was watching a video on the case of the James Maybrick diary earlier and they were appealing for a book by Dr Thomas Dutton...

    I just wondered what the link to the Ripper are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChains View Post
    Hi all
    I was watching a video on the case of the James Maybrick diary earlier and they were appealing for a book by Dr Thomas Dutton...

    I just wondered what the link to the Ripper are?
    Hello DaisyChains

    Dr. Thomas Dutton was a real person who had some interest in the Ripper case. He seems to have made notes or collected information about the case, so if his notes or diary can be found they might be important. However, the chief person to allege the existence of such a diary by Dr. Dutton was writer Donald McCormick (The Identity of Jack the Ripper, Jarrolds, 1959) whose writings have been challenged because he appears to have made up a lot of what he wrote about. So whether Dr. Dutton's diary ever in fact existed remains a matter of speculation.

    The latest allegation, by the way, is that the Ripper might have been a Jewish pimp named Joseph Silver with worldwide connections to Europe, England, the United States, and South Africa. The claim by University of Pretoria Professor Charles van Onselen, in the book The Fox & the Flies – the World of Joseph Silver, Racketeer and Psychopath, is being met with skepticism by the Ripper community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hello DaisyChains

    Dr. Thomas Dutton was a real person who had some interest in the Ripper case. He seems to have made notes or collected information about the case, so if his notes or diary can be found they might be important. However, the chief person to allege the existence of such a diary by Dr. Dutton was writer Donald McCormick (The Identity of Jack the Ripper, Jarrolds, 1959) whose writings have been challenged because he appears to have made up a lot of what he wrote about. So whether Dr. Dutton's diary ever in fact existed remains a matter of speculation.

    The latest allegation, by the way, is that the Ripper might have been a Jewish pimp named Joseph Silver with worldwide connections to Europe, England, the United States, and South Africa. The claim by University of Pretoria Professor Charles van Onselen, in the book The Fox & the Flies – the World of Joseph Silver, Racketeer and Psychopath, is being met with skepticism by the Ripper community.

    Best regards

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    This is all very interesting Chris...thanks!

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    I managed to find a copy of The Lodger: The Arrest and Escape of Jack the Ripper by Stewart Evans yesterday

    has anyone read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChains View Post
    I managed to find a copy of The Lodger: The Arrest and Escape of Jack the Ripper by Stewart Evans yesterday

    has anyone read it?
    Hello DaisyChains

    I have been for over a decade in communication with Stewart P. Evans, co-author of The Lodger: The Arrest and Escape of Jack the Ripper, which was republished in the U.S. as Jack the Ripper: First American Serial Killer., although have not had the fortune to meet him in person. In the book, Stewart and his co-author, Paul Gainey, put forward a good case for Irish-American quack doctor Dr Francis Tumblety as having been Jack the Ripper.

    Certainly Tumblety was in London at the time of the Ripper crimes. He was arrested in early November for homosexual offences with several men (such activity being illegal at the time). He was supposedly given bail which might have enabled him to murder Mary Jane Kelly and then free the country. A number of observers feel that Tumblety was too flamboyant a figure and, as a homosexual, unlikely to have been the lust-murderer of women that Jack was.

    Tumblety's candidacy remains interesting but not proven. It is not clear that Tumblety was the reported Batty Street lodger with blood-stained cuffs as Gainey and Evans allege.

    All my best

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hello DaisyChains

    I have been for over a decade in communication with Stewart P. Evans, co-author of The Lodger: The Arrest and Escape of Jack the Ripper, which was republished in the U.S. as Jack the Ripper: First American Serial Killer., although have not had the fortune to meet him in person. In the book, Stewart and his co-author, Paul Gainey, put forward a good case for Irish-American quack doctor Dr Francis Tumblety as having been Jack the Ripper.

    Certainly Tumblety was in London at the time of the Ripper crimes. He was arrested in early November for homosexual offences with several men (such activity being illegal at the time). He was supposedly given bail which might have enabled him to murder Mary Jane Kelly and then free the country. A number of observers feel that Tumblety was too flamboyant a figure and, as a homosexual, unlikely to have been the lust-murderer of women that Jack was.

    Tumblety's candidacy remains interesting but not proven. It is not clear that Tumblety was the reported Batty Street lodger with blood-stained cuffs as Gainey and Evans allege.

    All my best

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    Thanks Chris
    I haven't read the book yet. It's interesting that the authors think he was the lodger in question...do we know a positive identity on the Batty St lodger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChains View Post
    Thanks Chris
    I haven't read the book yet. It's interesting that the authors think he was the lodger in question...do we know a positive identity on the Batty St lodger?
    No. It's speculaton on the part of the authors that the lodger was Tumblety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hello DaisyChains

    I have been for over a decade in communication with Stewart P. Evans, co-author of The Lodger: The Arrest and Escape of Jack the Ripper, which was republished in the U.S. as Jack the Ripper: First American Serial Killer., although have not had the fortune to meet him in person. In the book, Stewart and his co-author, Paul Gainey, put forward a good case for Irish-American quack doctor Dr Francis Tumblety as having been Jack the Ripper.

    Certainly Tumblety was in London at the time of the Ripper crimes. He was arrested in early November for homosexual offences with several men (such activity being illegal at the time). He was supposedly given bail which might have enabled him to murder Mary Jane Kelly and then free the country. A number of observers feel that Tumblety was too flamboyant a figure and, as a homosexual, unlikely to have been the lust-murderer of women that Jack was.
    Tumblety's candidacy remains interesting but not proven. It is not clear that Tumblety was the reported Batty Street lodger with blood-stained cuffs as Gainey and Evans allege.

    All my best

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    I don't think Jack liked women or lusted after them in a conventional way. Interesting term 'lust-murderer'.

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    I've just been listening to an interview with Richard Jones on radio Merseyside.

    Not sure if it's already posted here but there's a link to his web-site :

    http://www.london-walks.co.uk/54/jac...reasure-.shtml


    has anyone here been on the London tour?
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    I don't know much about the Ripper Case (well, to be honest, nothing really), but twisted murderers are not confined to the heterosexual community.
    It's conceivable that a homosexual who hated women could have done the murders.
    I hasten to add that most Gays like women.

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    Chris an old friend of mine from Essex was researching the Ripper case is name is Ian Griggs, I havent heard from him in a while, Do you know him or of him?Thanx
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    I don't know much about the Ripper Case (well, to be honest, nothing really), but twisted murderers are not confined to the heterosexual community.
    It's conceivable that a homosexual who hated women could have done the murders.
    I hasten to add that most Gays like women.
    Hi Philip

    I suppose anything is possible but as you say, a trait among many gays is that they do like women and get on well with them. Dr. Tumblety, the American quack doctor who had an affair with writer Henry Hall Caine in Liverpool in the 1870's, is said to have been been a woman hater by some accounts and according to a 1913 letter by former Special Branch Chief Inspector John George Littlechild held to be a "likely suspect" in the murders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scanner View Post
    Chris an old friend of mine from Essex was researching the Ripper case is name is Ian Griggs, I havent heard from him in a while, Do you know him or of him?Thanx
    Hi Scanner

    Many thanks for telling me about him. The name did not strike a bell with me at first but I now I see that it was Mr. Griggs who took the photographs of the graves of the Whitechapel murder victims on the Casebook: Jack the Ripper site that I frequent.

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