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    Mr. Jona,
    I learned of Spring Heeled Jack many years ago when I was studying cryptozoology. In my own active field of that pseudo-science, I never believed in a paranormal resolution but in the end, I had to give in....
    Mr. George,
    Jack the Ripper is almost always relegated to the realm of the phantasmagorical. The Victorian era was fairly fantastic historically speaking. Even the establishment was going Egyptian and Far Eastern....
    You can always get Christina Wilson's or her descendant's DNA for purposes of confirmation if that's your druthers....And here's the Everton MJK in the 1861 Census. Maybe someone can tell me what street that is. I know it's off Scotland Rd. which does run into Everton Valley....


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    It's Bostock St.
    The Everton MJK lived at 5 Bostock St. in 1861. It's off of Scotland Rd. She was about 6 years old....

    Only a jump from Everton Valley....

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    Hello all

    Ripperologist is looking for new subscribers, and I am willing to send a sample copy to anyone who is interested. The journal after publishing for a decade as a print magazine has switched solely to electronic publishing. Once a month we email a full color copy of the issue to subscribers. Rip 74 came out on Christmas Eve and I would like to send a copy to anyone who would like one. It is a large PDF file of 89 pages of text and pictures so you have to have a mailbox large enough to receive. Most of our issues are about this size. Anyone interested, feel free to PM your email address to me. Enquiries about this offer or general enquiries on the case of the Whitechapel murders also entertained.

    For more information on our current and past issues go to:

    http://www.jtrforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=170

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    An Australian named Steve Powell has appeared on the "Casebook: Jack the Ripper" message boards posting in a thread he has entitled "On The Trail Of The Forgers" alleging that the Maybrick Diary that surfaced in Liverpool in 1992 and that was subsequently published in facsimile and transcript form in 1993 by Hyperion in a book entitled, The Diary of Jack the Ripper by Shirley Harrison, was a hoax cooked up in Australia. Powell had appeared on the same "Casebook" message boards back in 2000, when he had told part of the story. Now he has reappeared with further details of and information about the scheme.

    As many of you may know, the Maybrick Diary was brought forward by Mike Barrett, formerly a scrap metal dealer and taken in 1992 to London literary agent Doreen Montgomery. The story was that Barrett had received the Diary from Tony Devereux, a former compositor at the Echo, a friend he knew from drinking with him at the Saddle Inn in Anfield. Devereux subsequently died before he could give a full explanation of where the Diary had come from. More recently, Mike Barrett's wife Anne, who now goes under her maiden name of Anne Graham, said the Diary was in her family for years and that she gave it to the out-of-work Mike Barrett to apparently give him the impetus to write (he was a free-lance journalist).

    Mr Powell alleges that while Anne Graham was in Australia around 1970, where she trained and worked as a nurse, she was involved in the forging of the Diary with a transplanted Englishman named Steve Park, born in Lancaster, England, in 1952, who is now a permanent resident of Australia and who lived in Cronulla, Sydney at the time that the Diary forgery was begun.

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    interesting stuff Chris!
    Fascinates me...
    Wasnt one of the Ripper letters (a fake one) written in Prince William St in Liverpool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    interesting stuff Chris!
    Fascinates me...
    Wasnt one of the Ripper letters (a fake one) written in Prince William St in Liverpool?
    Hi MissInformed

    Yes indeed you are correct, there were a number of "Ripper" letters sent from Liverpool and one of them was addressed from Prince William Street in Liverpool. By the way, the book by Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner, Jack the Ripper: Letters from Hell, is excellent and I highly recommend it. If you are interested in the letters... and there were hundreds of them (probably hoaxes)... their book is an excellent survey of the letters received as well as the different suspects who might have written them, etc.

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    Thumbs up Ripperologist - More Free Issues

    Hi all

    Even better than my earlier offer to email a free, sample issue of Ripperologist to anyone who is interested, I am pleased to say that my colleague, Ripper author and East End expert Adam Wood, the technical genius behind the Rip, has redesigned our website and is offering three recent issues for you to download, free, gratis, and with the blessings of the staff of Ripperologist. Judge our magazine for yourself. I am sure some of you may wish to subscribe. Just go to http://www.ripperologist.info to peruse sample articles or download an issue or two.

    Ripperologist is a monthly magazine sent by email PDF file. Our publication is a journal with footnoted articles examining all aspects of the Ripper case plus news and reviews of books, movies, and websites that have a bearing on the Whitechapel murders, other true crime, and East End history.

    Best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi MissInformed

    Yes indeed you are correct, there were a number of "Ripper" letters sent from Liverpool and one of them was addressed from Prince William Street in Liverpool. By the way, the book by Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner, Jack the Ripper: Letters from Hell, is excellent and I highly recommend it. If you are interested in the letters... and there were hundreds of them (probably hoaxes)... their book is an excellent survey of the letters received as well as the different suspects who might have written them, etc.

    Chris
    hiya chris
    I have this book, it is indeed fantastic. The pictures are great, and the information is fascinating.
    I had a school friend who lived in Prince William St, and would visit her every day after school. It is amazing, that a letter could have been sent from that tiny little street!

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    Hoax letters can indeed be sent from anywhere and in fact i'm writing one now in the broom cupboard. How do you spell Ransom/ransome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Hoax letters can indeed be sent from anywhere and in fact i'm writing one now in the broom cupboard. How do you spell Ransom/ransome?
    Ha ha, good one, Ged.

    There is the question about a number of these letters of whether they were actually written from where the writer claimed, so I would not put my money on that letter actually having been written from William Henry Street. The writers make all sorts of claims and boasts, often I think to mislead the authorities.

    As for the spelling of the word "ransom" I used to know a guy named Bert Ransom.

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    Bert Ransom.

    'How much' did you know him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Bert Ransom.

    'How much' did you know him?
    Hi Ged

    I didn't know him in the biblical sense. I didn't owe him either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Ha ha, good one, Ged.

    There is the question about a number of these letters of whether they were actually written from where the writer claimed, so I would not put my money on that letter actually having been written from William Henry Street. The writers make all sorts of claims and boasts, often I think to mislead the authorities.

    Chris
    Prince William Street!

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    I noticed that too but I knew Missi would correct ya, being a stickler for important detail

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    Hi MissInformed

    Many thanks for correcting me, MissInformed. My mistake. I am a bit dyslexic. . .

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    That's k.o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiPathos View Post
    Someone on here raises an interesting point and I'd like to expand on it with a question -

    Can anyone provide an example of Mr. Slemen discovering any unique, verifiable and substantial information about any of the criminal cases which he has "investigated" which cannot be otherwise ascertained via any pre-existing published material ?

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    That is a very reasonable question to ask, im sure if you visited Toms forum and asked him in his " Ask Tom " section he might be able to answer it for you? I cant answer that one but he reckons that he has a new ripper suspect that has not been mentioned in the suspect mix before - guess we will have to wait till his book is published i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein View Post
    but he reckons that he has a new ripper suspect that has not been mentioned in the suspect mix before - guess we will have to wait till his book is published i guess
    I thought he finished his ripper work?

    He did research It In 2000/2001 after all and he gave talks enough on It to give a whole story.

    And what about his Claude Reigner Conder?
    Gididi Gididi Goo.

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    Hi Max

    Im not sure when or if Tom has finished his ripper work, your best asking him personally max as i dont speak for tom.

    Claude Reigner Conder is a suspect that tom has mentioned for jack the ripper i think???

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    My best bet Is not saying anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein View Post
    Hi Max

    Im not sure when or if Tom has finished his ripper work, your best asking him personally max as i dont speak for tom.

    Claude Reigner Conder is a suspect that tom has mentioned for jack the ripper i think??? but hey mate think this is the wrong thread to disscus the ripper crime
    Yes Colonel Claude Reignier Conder, a friend of Sir Charles Warren, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police during the Ripper crimes, and who worked with Warren on excavations in Palestine between 1867 and 1882, is Tom Slemen's suspect. We await his book written with Keith Andrews with interest.

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    Found this off Casebook.org

    http://media.putfile.com/slemen-unedited

    Sounds alot like Jimmy Corkhill from Brookside.
    Last edited by Max; 01-22-2007 at 12:13 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    Found this off Casebook.org

    http://media.putfile.com/slemen-unedited

    Sounds alot like Jimmy Corkhill from Brookside.
    cool max!! great little clip

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    What is your favourite or in your opinion, the best Ripper book out there?

    I have quite a few, but I am in the mood to start a new one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    Hi Chris
    What is your favourite or in your opinion, the best Ripper book out there?

    I have quite a few, but I am in the mood to start a new one!
    Hello MissInformed

    I always say that Philip Sugden's The Complete History of Jack the Ripper is about the best all-round Ripper book that there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hello MissInformed

    I always say that Philip Sugden's The Complete History of Jack the Ripper is about the best all-round Ripper book that there is.

    Chris
    Hi Chris
    That Philip Sugden one is my utmost favourite.
    It was so easy to read too, and so informative.

    The 'Letters from Hell' book is fabulous too, if only for the pictures!

    Do you know of any new Ripper books coming out? Apart from Tom Slemen's

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
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    Do you know of any new Ripper books coming out? Apart from Tom Slemen's
    List of upcoming JtR books.

    Of course, Mr. Slemen's "book" may yet turn out to be another puff of imaginary wind.

    AP

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiPathos View Post
    List of upcoming JtR books.

    Of course, Mr. Slemen's "book" may yet turn out to be another puff of imaginary wind.

    AP

    Hello AP

    That list is pretty much outdated... Most of those books are out already. You'll note the "2005" date there.

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    many thanks for that!
    that's more than enough for me to be getting on with!

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    Hello MissInformed

    You probably should check out the new book by Stewart P. Evans and Donald Rumbelow, Jack the Ripper: Scotland Yard Investigates. Both of these gentlemen were serving police officers -- Don Rumbelow with the City of London Police and Stewart Evans with the Suffolk Police -- and they are universally regarded in the field. If anyone knows about the workings of the police department, then and now, it is these two experts.

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