Stadia

[pablo42]

It makes great sense to have an accessible rail link for fans who live here and for those who live further away. People can be encouraged to choose not to drive with reasonable cost rail fares and easy accessibility, but it should still be their choice.

Also the 'long march' from Lime Street has not been that safe for some visiting fans. These are various distances from a quick scout around on the internet:

Arsenal; Three or Ten minute walk to tube dependent on line
Old Trafford; incorporated station
Chelsea; Fulham Broadway, two minutes walk
Aston Villa; Whitton Station, five minutes walk
Man City; 15mins walk
Barcelona; 10 to 15mins walk from Metro or Tram
San Siro; about 15mins from Metro
Bayern Munich; incorporated station (but World Cup Stadium budget!!)
Ajax; two or 15 mins walk

Stations at either Vauxhall or Arkles Lane would fit into this range but you have to take the point on road traffic around Scottie Road.

We shouldn't be following these people. We should lead.

[petromax]

Too far must be at the stadium. Vauxhall? Ged will have kittens. Some slum old businesses will need to be demolished.

Stanley Dock actually, on the viaduct on the Northern Line and no need for demolition - do try and keep up

Arkles Lane? Too far. Walton for GP? Forget GP they are moving.

Not too far at all, within easy walking distance. As for GP moving, you clearly know the result of the Inquiry before anyone else.

Why do you need a lost to have common sense. ? The station is best next to the stadium or under it.

Research is useful if you want to learn from other's experience and not repeat their mistakes. If there were such as thing as common sense you would see that.

[Waterways]

if u look at the amount of fans on match days who walk from the city centre to the ground then although it would be nice to have a station nearby the ground it's far from essential

If there is not a rapid-transit rail station to shift 30-40,000 per hour 60-73,000 will just grid-lock. The rail link will also entice fans to attend. In January, taking a Merseyrail station to the station under the stadium and entering directly into a stadium with the roof closed. I would go.

I don't see why ppl should be coaxed out of their cars, they paid alot of money to be able to travel wherever at their own leisure so good luck to them

Oh no! I can't believe he wrote that.

[scouse smurf]

You to shift fans fast. Only rapid-transit high throughput station can shift 30,000-40,000 an hour. Trams will shift jack ****, and cause traffic jams.

The city has rapid transit rail so let's use it.

I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow

[Waterways]

yeah, but that will never happen.

The do at Wembley and the Emirates, etc. Why would people in Liverrpool ignore a quick in and out rail system?

[petromax]

I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow

Since American Football lasts so long the arrivals are probably staggered more. Also the car would absolutely predominate. Massive parking lots

[scouse smurf]

If there is not a rapid-transit rail station to shift 30-40,000 per hour 60-73,000 will just grid-lock. The rail link will also entice fans to attend. In January, taking a Merseyrail station to the station under the stadium and entering directly into a stadium with the roof closed. I would go.

Oh no! I can't believe he wrote that.

What was up with me saying that ?

I don't think Everton or Liverpool really need fans that are only willing to go if they don't have to make any effort to get there. Both clubs have strong fan bases already, so making it easy to get to will only attract the prawn sandwich brigade... I assume u like prawns

[pablo42]

I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow

Most of the US stadiums rely on the car. They generally have motorway access. They have the space and they were from an earlier time, not too worried about carbon footprint etc.

[petromax]

The do at Wembley and the Emirates, etc. Why would people in Liverrpool ignore a quick in and out rail system?

At the risk of repeating absolutely everything, just exactly where is this up and running low cost, affordable and buildable within our life time, in and out rail system?

[Waterways]

I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow

The model to follow is common sense. Wembley and the O2 Arena is the model. They shift the fans like zippo.

I can't believe anyone would ever argue about not incorporating rapid-transit rail as part of a design.

[Waterways]

What was up with me saying that ?

He wants to encourage cars.

I don't think Everton or Liverpool really need fans that are only willing to go if they don't have to make any effort to get there. Both clubs have strong fan bases already, so making it easy to get to will only attract the prawn sandwich brigade... I assume u like prawns

The Emitrates is 60,000 full every game as it is easy to get to and the facilities superb.

[scouse smurf]

The model to follow is common sense. Wembley and the O2 Arena is the model. They shift the fans like zippo.

I can't believe anyone would ever argue about not incorporating rapid-transit rail as part of a design.

So what u're suggesting is we build a big white elephant for some millenium event, using lots of public money, and then wait for someone to think of an idea to use it or build a stadium which results in the team not being able to sign many world class players and falling away in the league

[petromax]

Yeah, but where is it and if not anywhere who can afford it?

[petromax]

So what u're suggesting is we build a big white elephant for some millenium event, using lots of public money, and then wait for someone to think of an idea to use it or build a stadium which results in the team not being able to sign many world class players and falling away in the league

Don't woory it won't happen. Nobody's got the money

[petromax]

The Emitrates is 60,000 full every game as it is easy to get to and the facilities superb.

and funded by a massive property development