Last edited by Waterways; 08-04-2009 at 03:26 PM.
The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
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Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
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Last edited by Waterways; 08-04-2009 at 03:25 PM.
The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click
Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
Giving Liverpool a full Metro - CLICK
Rapid-transit rail: Everton, Liverpool & Arena - CLICK
Save Royal Iris - Sign Petition
They are buildings of historic importance, the garden were not. They can have the insulation values uprated far more easily than brick block with landing protruding acts as heat sinks.
The stadium company would say that. The Loop site is totally crap. A stadium needs a rapid transit rail station incorporated. Guess what, Liverpool has a one and people ignore it. The Loop site cannot incorporate rapid-transit rail. If any is run in it will be footy traffic only, so EFC would have to foot the biog bill. WHP can have all and funded out of public fund and all benefit.I too want to progress and a perfectly good site such as the tunnel loop which is overgrown with weeds in an area that needs regeneration is so easily discounted by you as not big enough when a leading world stadium construction company says it is - who should we believe WW
The Loop is another ill-thought out idea, as is the Stanley Park stadium. A stadium without rapid-transit. LFC must be daft to design a stadium without rapid-transit as they have all to gain by having it. The city is mad to allow such nuisance creators at footy stadia not have use it. London look at Liverpool and think the city is daft. EFC and LFC need rethinks on where to their stadia. EFC, hopefully not in Kirkby.
The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click
Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
Giving Liverpool a full Metro - CLICK
Rapid-transit rail: Everton, Liverpool & Arena - CLICK
Save Royal Iris - Sign Petition
Last edited by Waterways; 08-04-2009 at 03:28 PM.
The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click
Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
Giving Liverpool a full Metro - CLICK
Rapid-transit rail: Everton, Liverpool & Arena - CLICK
Save Royal Iris - Sign Petition
The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click
Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
Giving Liverpool a full Metro - CLICK
Rapid-transit rail: Everton, Liverpool & Arena - CLICK
Save Royal Iris - Sign Petition
It does not. Energy efficient materials (polyurethane insulants and the like, low-emissitivity glass etc) that reduce life cycle costs have a predominantly high carbon footprint in manufacture and in the case of timber are difficult to sustain. The working of the materials in manufacutre is carbon intensive as is the transport to site and the building processes on site.
The reduction of emissions in new homes only reduces the increase of carbon footrint less than a new home built from high energy materials would. In short, they make a bad situation slightly better. They cannot compete from a carbon point of view with keeping existing buildings with or without upgrading.
Both are historically important for their own reasons and if you think 9" or 13.5" solid brickwork is easy to upgrade thermally without disruption of historic interiors and at reasonable cost, then you know rather less about it than you think you do.
HOK were paid for an independent assessment and they gave it. They have no other interest other than not getting sued for bad advice
It does not. There are plenty without.
Get Real!! Just exactly where will the money come from?
Maybe they do and maybe it shouldn't, but who can afford hundreds of millions more than is feasible. Even if the city had the power to insist on new rail loops and extraordinary third party benefits, which it does not, absolutely NOTHING would get built on this basis.
Make a plan that works, is feasible and will get built or talk about it for the next decade or so instead.
More insults. I know "exactly" what I am on about. I said the Georgian quarter is of historical importance. The Gardens are not.
Their advice is bad. They never took into account rapid-transit rail.HOK were paid for an independent assessment and they gave it. They have no other interest other than not getting sued for bad advice
The same place that the trams money came from and the London Crossrail came from as well.Get Real!! Just exactly where will the money come from?
You haven't much a clue. Don't take that as an insult, it is just the way it is.
The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click
Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
Giving Liverpool a full Metro - CLICK
Rapid-transit rail: Everton, Liverpool & Arena - CLICK
Save Royal Iris - Sign Petition
Saying it's so, don't make it so! An insult is an insult. I think calling someone clueless is pretty insulting and you compound it with arrogance.
Without bothering to track back and in this post alone, you think yourself a better judge of architecture and its historical importance than anyone here; you believe yourself better qualified to assess the suitability of a site for a stadium than an organisation with immeasurable specialised experience and you blythely disregard the fact that there was no money for trams from any source actually and that Crossrail is funded on an entirely different basis of established demand.
That my friend, is just the way you are. If you like, you can take that as an insult.
Fighting talk were I come from. Good job I moved.
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