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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    There are mothballed lines that can be run in, and also serve the local community.
    At huge cost! Must we go over this again? A station on an existing line is the ONLY way forward.

    As it happens LFC have planning consent without a rail link. If the city wants to provide it, I'm sure they'd be pleased but since they can't even fund the stadium - it's going nowhere

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    Sadly, reckon so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    What I'm babbling on about is the glowing example u've given cost a lot of money, which I don't think has been gained back yet (I could be wrong)

    I agree about the joint stadium idea though but think it should be in stanley park
    But there is no rapid-transit rail link and the stadium is in a grade 2 listed Victorian park and surrounded by residential houses. It is a very poor location, yet the city in their wisdom gave planning permission, but only for 60,000 and rapid-transit rail has to be there to go above and LFC want 73,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petromax View Post
    At huge cost! Must we go over this again?
    What figures do you have on this cost or are you making it up?

    A station on an existing line is the ONLY way forward.
    It isn't, a mothballed line and tunnel is still there waiting that serves the communities it runs through. It needs a lot of joined up thinking. Liverpool is devoid of this type of thinking. Others can join things up.

    As it happens LFC have planning consent without a rail link. If the city wants to provide it, I'm sure they'd be pleased but since they can't even fund the stadium - it's going nowhere
    Only to 60,000 and a foolish thing to give PP for that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    I reckon they'd love to share, it's just the majority of fans are so against the idea
    You might be right but i haven't seen it; but sharing the infrastructure, the rail connection and the parking and roads, - two 'new' (refurbished and extended) stadia, a sports campus, a national attraction, lots of visitors, rail station, all in one place, World Cup hosts, Stanley Park, area regeneration; all good (and vaguely affordable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    But there is no rapid-transit rail link and the stadium is in a grade 2 listed Victorian park and surrounded by residential houses. It is a very poor location, yet the city in their wisdom gave planning permission, but only for 60,000 and rapid-transit rail has to be there to go above and LFC want 73,000.

    In case u've not noticed, we don't totally agree with the train link being essential, it's a nice to have at best, and we know ur opinion that it's essential.

    I only think it's the best place because that's pretty much were the grounds are now. After seeing were Espanyol's new ground is then if I had to choose anywhere, then like u said earlier I'd suggest somewhere near the airport

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    What figures do you have on this cost or are you making it up?

    It isn't, a mothballed line and tunnel is still there waiting that serves the communities it runs through. It needs a lot of joined up thinking. Liverpool is devoid of this type of thinking. Others can join things up.

    Only to 60,000 and a foolish thing to give PP for that as well.
    For goodness sake WW, just exactly how short is your memory? Read back to remind yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by petromax View Post
    You might be right but i haven't seen it; but sharing the infrastructure, the rail connection and the parking and roads, - two 'new' (refurbished and extended) stadia,
    GP is not going to happen. The districts are also an embarrassment to the city. A very poor image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    In case u've not noticed, we don't totally agree with the train link being essential, it's a nice to have at best, and we know ur opinion that it's essential.
    Do you think we should scrap buses as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Do you think we should scrap buses as well?
    What are u babbling on about ?

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    Reckon we all agree that a rail link is preferable, whether the powers that be agree is another matter.

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