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    Default Red Squirrels at Formby

    Yes, in the national news!

    One of the country's most beautiful sand dune and pinewood coastal areas is to become a red squirrel refuge. The National Trust said the Sefton Coast Woodlands, part of its Formby Estate on Merseyside, is the third national red squirrel refuge in the UK.

    It is being launched at the start of Red Squirrel Week by Red Alert, a partnership of 120 organisations and individuals, including the National Trust and Lancashire Wildlife Trust, all committed to protecting the threatened species.

    The woodlands will be surrounded by a three-mile "buffer zone" in an attempt to stop the movement of grey squirrels into the refuge area and safeguard the future of the much-loved creatures.

    Andrew Brockbank, the National Trust's Countryside Property Manager at Formby, said: "People in the Formby and Sefton Coast area are justly proud of their red squirrels and fiercely resist anything which threatens their long-term survival.

    "Long-term conservation of red squirrels will only succeed in this area, if grey squirrels are effectively controlled."


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    Once found throughout most of the UK, the distribution of red squirrels has declined dramatically in the last one hundred years with the break-up of their woodland habitats and the spread of the larger, more dominant North American grey squirrel.

    As a result, red squirrels have only a few remaining habitats - mostly the coniferous forests of Scotland, Wales and Northern England.

    There are about 160,000 red squirrels left in the UK compared with 2.5 million grey squirrels.

    The other two National Red Squirrel Refuges are Spadeadam in Keilder Forest and Oasis Holiday Village, Penrith.


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    Anything to help keep the Red Squirrals existing is great. Only ever saw one once near Alton Towers I think.

    My brother gets my dog to chase grey squirrals in the park, all she does is chase and bark at them though nothing else , she wouldn't harm it. She just like sto chase small animals.
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    About two years ago on a rainy miserable November day I took my kids to the squirrel reserve,and with it being so quiet and deserted the squirrels were letting us hand feed them which was a truly amazing experience,I would definitely recommend doing this if your into nature or want to see your kids smile for hours,it has to be very dull and rainy to do this and you will get covered in crap so go prepared but its worth it.

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    Hi, Paul. One time we went to Formby Point we bought a packet of 'food' for the squirrels off the guy at the entrance, it consisted of a couple of monkey nuts among other stuff. Anyway, off we went to find our red friends. It wasn't long before one ran along the fence, sorted out the monkey nut from the other dross in my hand and b*ggered off. So next time you go, I suggest you pay a visit to the supermarket to buy yer nuts, 'cos they're fussy sods! As you say, a great place to take the kids,and it's free! Car parking is a bit pricey at £3 odd though, but what the hell...
    Ermine tastes much the same as sackcloth when there's nothing left to eat.

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    Yes your right scousemouse they defo prefer the monkey nuts.

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    Its a very nice place, we (the family) have been 3 times now with the babies.

    I'll upload a pic soon.
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    Formby is a smashing place any time of the year. It's nice for days out in the summertime, but you can have lovely autumn afternoon walks too. Days like today with nice autumn sunshine. Even winter walks can be nice. Wrap up well and enjoy the crisp winter atmosphere - as long as it's not a damp day.
    We went there in December once - just before Xmas - and it was really nice.
    There was a clear sky and a huge silver moon shining through the pine woods.


    .... ooh, I'm coming over all poetic here

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    Took the kids to Formby to see the squirrels today. I've attached a couple of pics and I'll upload more soon.


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    ahh, that's a nice pic Kev did the kids see lots of squirrels? Some are quite tame and will come and feed from your hand. We've got my son on video when he was little feeding a squirrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou
    ahh, that's a nice pic Kev did the kids see lots of squirrels? Some are quite tame and will come and feed from your hand. We've got my son on video when he was little feeding a squirrel.
    Yep, there were loads of 'em

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    Too many grey Squirrals in parks near me and have the Americans to thank for it!

    Lol, my brother gets the dog to chase them and goes to her look and kill and she chases them and some nearly have been caught not noticing her!

    Brother said she actually caught one off a tree and had it in her teeth!
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    Isnt there a law that lets u kill the grey ones?

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    Don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    Don't know.
    I think there is, can someone give us more infO?

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    Me Brother took a picture of one when it came up to him when he poured some strawberry milkshake on the ground. They'll come up to ya if ya got food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev
    Yep, there were loads of 'em
    Was it busy or did you get to hand feed a few?

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    we got very close to a few, cheeky little buggers they are they dont hang about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max

    Brother said she actually caught one off a tree and had it in her teeth!
    I hate it when that happens!!!, I always carry some dental floss, be prepared and all that.

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    He had to shout to her to drop it because she would of bit it in half and could of caught soemthing if she pierced it.
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    As a £1m national programme to save the red squirrel species is launched today, Formby is one of only 16 places selected to take part because it offers one of the best chances of survival.

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    WOOO HOOO Save the native red squrral!
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    I saw a fox the other morning.... )

    Foxes are the gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE
    I saw a fox the other morning.... )

    Foxes are the gear
    U must have been up early mate, or just getting in perhaps?
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    Fox was in my street once in the Alley eating out of bin bags! Saw me and ran half way up the street then ran back up to get to sefton park nearby.

    One was in Greenbank park too but you only see them at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev
    Isnt there a law that lets u kill the grey ones?
    ...It gets thornier; “control” translates as “culling”. Live capture and shooting are the only legal methods of dispatching the creatures, and Smolka – the red squirrels’ champion in south Scotland – demonstrates a typical wire cage trap. Baited with maize – a favourite grey squirrel snack – they are covered and placed on the ground, where greys generally feed. To minimise suffering, traps are checked twice daily, and any reds immediately released. As for the unfortunate greys, Smolka says: “Some people shoot them in the trap, but we advise you get a sack, put it over the end and when the trap is open, the grey goes into the sack. You then take it in the sack to very solid ground, like concrete or stone, and give it a very hard blow to the back of the head.”

    It sounds hideous, although training and detailed instructions are given to landowners and Smolka insists the method is humane. “But most keepers shoot them directly in the sack,” says Riley. “Because if you’re fiddling about with a sack and the thing gets out, you’ve committed an offence. It’s illegal to release grey squirrels into the wild.

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    Red alert: Saving the squirrel

    The red squirrel is being killed by its grey cousin. Should we intervene?

    Imagine the tiger vanishing from India, or the giant panda disappearing from China. The red squirrel has the same iconic status in England, say those who want to save it. Losing the small, tufty creature that inspired Beatrix Potter to invent Squirrel Nutkin would diminish the soul of the nation, they say, as well as being an ecological disaster.

    The red has three advantages that will help it survive: its looks; our instinctive hostility to all things American just now; and the passion that the British have, whatever the Government says, for killing things. Pass the shotgun would you? Bloody Yanks. Sorry, greys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev
    U must have been up early mate, or just getting in perhaps?
    , Ah it was early doors, and I was walking the dog, thank God he was on his lead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
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    The red squirrel is being killed by its grey cousin. Should we intervene?
    Yes, we should protect our native species from the foriegn invaders

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    Payed a visit to Formby today myself and it was very busy but it was a great day out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D
    Payed a visit to Formby today myself and it was very busy but it was a great day out.
    Nice photees Paul mate Did u get down to the beach?
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