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    I'm scared to think like that knowing how these things tend to always get rejected,over the years so many promises have never materialised.

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    545 Feet tall will be the Brunswick one then Kev.

    Not bad, the average height I guess.

    The BT Tower in London is 600 odd feet.

    I'd like a thousand odd feet one though like in America and in places like China though one day.

    Will have to go to Shanghai before it sinks!

    Eifel Tower is 990 feet which I went up in 2003.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev
    Seems to me that calling it an us and them mentality is a load of nonsense.
    Of course it is and I suspect they know it but there is no one to take them to task, only the developer. I wouldn't mind starting a ginger group to take these people to task whenever they spout this type of ****e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev
    Quite right Max, Brunswick is 166.25 metres tall whereas Unity is 90.60 metres tall.

    Almost twice as high
    Height is limited due to airport aircraft access,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways
    Height is limited due to airport aircraft access,
    Height being limited due to airport aircraft access always makes me laugh that, how many easy jets do you know that fly over Brunswick that low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev
    Height being limited due to airport aircraft access always makes me laugh that, how many easy jets do you know that fly over Brunswick that low?
    In fog they may. A plane smacked into the side of the Empire State in NY. The chances of just hitting that building with all that space around is what? But it did.

    They work out angles from the runway, height, etc.

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    That was decades ago John. It wasn't a jet plane, probably didn't have radar at the time, and the part of the ESB it wholloped was twice the height of Brunswick Quay. It'll have lights on the top as a precaution for single manned aircraft and microlights, but that should suffice I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways
    In fog they may. A plane smacked into the side of the Empire State in NY. The chances of just hitting that building with all that space around is what? But it did.

    They work out angles from the runway, height, etc.
    Not very likely though, is it? And, hey ho, sometimes accidents just happen. After all, when the Air France concorde tragically crashed at Paris Airport, it crashed into a low rise hotel and killed people in that building, as well as the passengers. Planes that are crashing don't discriminate about the type of building they crash on, although pilots still in control seem to try to steer away from things like schools and into fields, or so you read. Of course, at Schiphol that didn't happen, but it's so densely built up, that is maybe harder to do, and they were crashing at night. The whole area smelt of perfume and death, as the plane was carrying tons of French perfume amongst its freight apparantly.

    I have only ever panicked once a plane, with a conviction that we had just about run out of fuel with about ten miles to go - and that was going to LJLA when it was still called Speke Airport. I was comforted by the thought that if the pilot felt unable to continue the last bit, he could probably put down reasonably safely by slowing down and sliding into the mudflats of the inner estuary. Now probably it would have been be a disaster, the plane would break up and we would all have drowned (all ten of us - it was the old British Midland service from Heathrow, which was hardly a success), in two feet of mud, which would no doubt catch fire and become a sort of burning ungent. But, generally, I think there are lots of places around Speke where a plane in trouble can get down safely. And, as Bunny points out, the building will have lights on it.

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    Surely a plane wouldn't be that low yet when by Brunswick quay?
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    Stranger things have happened Max. Planes have over/undershot the runway numerous times. You'd be surprised how many aircraft are covered by the shifting river silts..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpolitan
    Not very likely though, is it?
    But likely.

    And, hey ho, sometimes accidents just happen. After all, when the Air France concorde tragically crashed at Paris Airport, it crashed into a low rise hotel and killed people in that building, as well as the passengers. Planes that are crashing don't discriminate about the type of building they crash on,
    I worked in aviation. I concluded nothing but flat land, or water, should be at the beginning or ends of runways – not even elevated runways lights. Never a hotel; not even to the side. Why? Because a plane might drop on it. Like it is not good to have a play area for 3 year olds on the pavement of a duel carriageway.

    And, as Bunny points out, the building will have lights on it.
    Which are not any use in fog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways
    But likely.



    I worked in aviation. I concluded nothing but flat land, or water, should be at the beginning or ends of runways – not even elevated runways lights. Never a hotel; not even to the side. Why? Because a plane might drop on it. Like it is not good to have a play area for 3 year olds on the pavement of a duel carriageway.



    Which are not any use in fog.
    Maybe they have fog lights on them too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    Maybe they have fog lights on them too.
    Fog lights that shine through the fog? Never seen any.

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    What field of aviation were you involved in? An interest of mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzacat
    What field of aviation were you involved in? An interest of mine
    Intrument Landing systems (ILS). The equipment on the ground that guides and lands the planes. A long time ago now.


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