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    I am all for Everton leaving the outdated and landlocked Goodison Park. Time moves on. The Everton Kirkby stadium is a cheap and nasty effort - the corners are not even used being blank to save money. This reduces atmosphere in a stadium as the sweeping curve and roof promotes sound travel to all sides.

    The sooner Kenright and his mob go the better. A cheap 50,000 seat lash-up? Everton - once the Mersey millionaires who were the natural host for the 1966 world cup semi-finals. What a shambles!!!
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    'ello Waterways, how are yer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
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    City sites for Everton FC were 'rejected a year ago'
    Aug 10 2007
    by Larry Neild, Liverpool Daily Post

    TWO of the alternative sites earmarked by council leader Warren Bradley as a new city home for Everton FC were ruled out a year ago by town hall chief executive Colin Hilton.

    Cllr Bradley has launched a mission to ensure his beloved Everton stay in Liverpool rather than move to a new 50,000-seater stadium in Kirkby.

    Last month he cited three alternative locations in Liverpool, the Bestway trumpet-loop land in Scotland Road, a car-holding compound in Speke and a large council depot in Long Lane, Aintree.

    Sources at Everton FC see the shopping list as a bid by Cllr Bradley to influence the result of the current fans’ ballot over the move to Kirkby.

    Last night, the Daily Post studied a letter sent by Mr Hilton on August 2, 2006 to Keith Wyness, chief executive of Everton FC.

    The 2006 letter immediately ruled out of the equation the Long Lane site. Although the Speke site was a potential location, the amount of commercial development needed to make it financially viable would have left no space for a football stadium.

    The letter confirmed that discussions had taken place between the club, the council and Liverpool Land Development Company which led to a review of possible sites within the city for a new Everton stadium.

    From the list of possible sites, two were selected for further consideration – the Liver Industrial Estate in Aintree (The Long Lane site) and the Ansa site in Speke, fronting Speke Boulevard and adjacent to the large retail park.

    Mr Hilton told Mr Wyness that irrespective of the need for enabling development at the Aintree estate, the site was considered to have major servicing, access and residential amenity problems associated with it. On that basis, and because of the difficulty of providing a main road frontage, the Aintree site was not progressed further.

    Consultants King Sturge, who had been commissioned to produce appraisals of both sites, turned their attention to the 50-acre Speke site.

    Mr Hilton said in purely physical terms it could accommodate a new stadium, together with significant amounts of additional development. It was estimated that the minimum cost of buying the site alone would be about £14.55m.

    The consultants then studied how much allied development would need to take place to generate £50m.

    King Sturge reported that in order to deliver sufficient funding to acquire the site and contribute around £50m of enabling development there would need to be 400,000 sq ft of unrestricted retail development. The land needed for the developments would leave no room for a stadium.

    Mr Hilton said in terms of accessibility, visibility and overall location the Speke site represented an excellent location for a relocated Everton. But to achieve a stadium, the enabling development would have to be reduced from £50m to £20m.

    That, according to sources at Everton FC, effectively rules out the Speke site. Last night, Cllr Bradley said a recent re-assessment of the Aintree site had now indicated that a stadium was possible on the site.

    “We are talking to potential partners about the site and we already have a major supermarket chain interested in working alongside Everton,” he said. It is understood talks have taken place with Sainsbury’s.

    He accused Everton and Keith Wyness of “playing games”.

    Source: Liverpool Daily Post

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    Hatton: EFC 'wrong' to ballot on move to Kirkby
    Aug 15 2007
    by Larry Neild, Liverpool Daily Post

    EVERTON’S board was wrong to allow a ballot among fans to decide on a move to Kirkby, former council politician Derek Hatton said last night.

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    Default Everton city stadium plan: first pictures



    A RIVAL plan to stop Everton FC moving to Kirkby was unveiled today.

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    Would like to see more on that one Howie, even though i'm a Liverpool season ticket holder and would laugh myself senseless if Everton moved to Kirkby, the club must look at alternative sites in the city in my opinion.

    Kirkby is only viable due to Tesco pumping all the money in, if Leahry is such a fan why doesn't he sponser the club either on shirts or new stadium or both.

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    Everton dismiss cash and carry site as ‘too small’

    EVERTON FC last night remained clear that a site occupied by a cash and carry chain is not big enough for a new stadium for the club.

    It came after the Bestway Group released pictures of a proposed design for the Loop site, off Scotland Road, as revealed first on liverpooldailypost.co.uk yesterday.

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    Everton fans have voted in favour of the club's proposed move to a new stadium in Kirkby.
    The club balloted more than 36,000 supporters on the move, which chief executive Keith Wyness described as "the deal of the century".

    Everton vowed to abide by the outcome of the vote but 59% of the 25,761 votes returned supported the proposals.

    The 50,000-seater new stadium will be financed alongside supermarket giant Tesco and the local Knowsley council.

    It is part of a planned £400m redevelopment of a 32-hectare (80-acre) site.

    With Liverpool set to move into a new £300m stadium in Stanley Park in 2010, Everton are keen to keep up with their fierce rivals.

    The new ground will be modelled on the traditional four-sided structure modelled on Cologne's World Cup stadium.

    The plans caused consternation among some Everton fans as well as Liverpool Council, who were upset at the idea of the club moving outside the city boundaries.

    However, the club argue that Goodison Park, the club's home of 115 years, is too old and impractical to expand while other suggested sites within the city were too small.

    As they revealed the results of the vote, Everton pleaded with opposition groups to end their protests.

    "We believe that now is the time for all supporters of Everton Football Club to set aside any differences of opinion and unite for the common good," said Everton's statement.

    "The simple truth is, we all want the same thing - a thriving, ambitious and prosperous club away from the field of play and an attractive, competitive team on it."

    But opponents of the plans have vowed to continue their fight.

    Keep Everton In Our City spokesman Dave Kelly said: "The ballot has served to split the fans.

    "That makes me sad as an Evertonian. There is still a long campaign ahead because public opinion in Kirkby against a football stadium is growing."

    Knowsley Council are facing opposition from local residents over the prospect of a football stadium being built as part of their town centre regeneration scheme.

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    Kirkby is only viable due to Tesco pumping all the money in, if Leahry is such a fan why doesn't he sponser the club either on shirts or new stadium or both.[/QUOTE]

    Apparently though the land they want to build on is archdioceses land and has a clause that it should only be used for educational purposes or recreational. So Tesco need Kirkby or they cant build there store. The rumour is that the new sports centre which only opened this year is to be flattened and replaced with one owned by Everton and tesco therefore getting around the recreational clause. And probably along with extortionate fees for the locals of Kirkby (like myself) to join.

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    I m liverpool myself but not a die hard fan , probably why i dont see ground share as a problem twice the stadium for half the cash .The point i want to make is everton are an evertonian club! , isnt it bad enough we hardly have any local lads on the teams without they start moving the teams away from home .The everton area i lived in for 15 years and it could do with the regeneration now being planned for kirkby .Money is ruining the game all across the board , just look at the recent published accounts for liverpool and the debt of m&% U£d. It shouldnt be about selling the souls of the teams in the name of progress .Fan ownership should be discussed more if it works abroad then it could work here .

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    Personally, my view is that Everton should try to stay in or as near to as possible where they currently are. Kirkby doesn't strike me as being the idea place for a football stadium; especially when being incorporated into a retail venture.

    Kirkby Town Centre is doing exceedingly well without a Tesco supermarket; I would fear that the small businesses that line St Chad's parade would suffer the most. The town my need a supermarket; but maybe a development like that would be more suited to the Alchemy Business Park on the East Lancs?
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    Club Statement re proposed relocation to Kirkby



    We are disappointed by the decision. Having spent more than two years working diligently on a project which would not only provide Everton Football Club with a new home but also regenerate Kirkby, we had hoped to avoid a Government call-in.

    Indeed, it was only in June that Knowsley Borough Council’s Planning Committee voted by a majority of 20-1 to grant planning permission.

    We shall now engage in detailed discussions with our development partners, KBC and Tesco, to assess what options are open to us.

    It is important to stress that this decision does not spell the end of the Destination Kirkby project – but it will, self-evidently, precipitate a period of reflection, assessment and re-evaluation.

    Everton Football Club
    6 August 2008

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    something so big usually does get called in. Doesn't mean it is doomed. Knowsley council were all for it.
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