Originally Posted by
pablo42
Waterways, we will have to agree to disagree. These politicians are a disgrace. All parties, and the next will be no different.
I am only interested in facts:
I always think, where were they in the past 12 years? Selective amnesia clearly set in about anything pre-1997. And where were they in the years from 1997 to the world-wide Credit Crunch, that came in from the USA.
FACTS.....
- The city of Liverpool has changed immeasurably in the past 12 years - but maybe those buildings are all cardboard cutouts.
- Maybe the strongest economy in the world for 12 years, was a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the strongest currency in the world for around 12 years was a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the super low interest rates were a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the super low inflation rates were a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the longest ever economic growth in British history, under Blair/Brown was a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the boom and bust of the Thatcher/Major years, and absent under Labour were a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the near zero unemployment was a figment of our imaginations.
- Maybe the economy so strong that we could absorb 1 million eastern Europeans was a lie - who were all those Polish fellas then?
- Maybe the Brown G20 world-wide rescue plan was a lie - it is now being reported by a number of economists in a few countries, that the recession is now over.
- In many respects a worse financial crash than 1929, but no soup lines, so well plugged, and no massive unemployment as was predicated 18 months ago.
Look at the facts that matter to a country at large. The Labour government over the 12 years from 1997 been the best in modern times. They plugged the Credit Crunch too - G20 meeting in London, etc, did anyone read the papers and watch TV?
The history over the past 100 years is enough to give the Tory Party a wide berth and cast to oblivion. In 1918 only 10% of men had the vote. The Lab and Lib enfranchised the working classes and full voting ensued. Then look at it over that past 30 years - disaster. Yet one generation does not learn from the previous and makes the same mistakes.
The Labour party introduced the housing policy for the soldiers coming back from the war, Homes for Heroes. The Liberal government however was a bit backwards, however brought in the national insurance act, employment, education and the first seeds of the NHS, with Labour fully implementing post WW2. People just forget the great achievement from the past. The Conservative Party, well what they have done during the past was clearly disastrous and giving them another chance to do so again? You must learn from history.
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The Tories have opposed most social reform, brought in little to none of it themselves, having repealed a lot of it at times. Most people in the UK are Lab or Lib and of total eligible to votes only about 20% go to the Tories, yet they get in far too regularly and ruin matters
The Tory Party has a naive Eton old school boy shadow cabinet. All old school chums - how cosy for them - all with silly those arrrcents. The sort of thing you see in third world countries. Mainly from the same school and unis and always have been. Only two unis matter to them, as the other 97 are dismissed as not being "the right type", so all the rest are capable of ruling. Trust the economy with them? Are you serious?
World-wide, Liberal/Social Democrats improved the living standards and quality of life of people. In the 1950/60 the country was supposed to be economically contracting, yet living standards for the masses were rising. The poorer, the vast majority of the people, were getting more of the share. The rich were not as rich and said the country was going to the dogs. My Dad didn't give a toss about shedding an empire, all he was concerned about was the standard of living for his family, which was rising because of social justice.
Tory PM, McMillan said in 1958, "you have never had it so good". What tripe!!! The country was full of slum housing with millions without running hot water or inside toilets. I wonder who he was talking about? Many slum dwellers actually believed him as well.
Do not tell yourself lies and believe them. Look at facts.
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