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    I understand that the building on Parli has been put back up for sale due to the *charity* that wish to aquire it fell short in their fundraising for a an amount the church had requested.


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    I wonder if anyone has any information on the seemingly dissused IBO Community Centre Princess Park Drive, surely a building of its stature would be listed but doesnt seem to show up. I am aware that MSDP who are now based on Queens Drive had the building as their home anyone any other information on the building, I mean how could a listed building have that hideous extension ploncked on the back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian F View Post
    I wonder if anyone has any information on the seemingly dissused IBO Community Centre Princess Park Drive, surely a building of its stature would be listed but doesnt seem to show up. I am aware that MSDP who are now based on Queens Drive had the building as their home anyone any other information on the building, I mean how could a listed building have that hideous extension ploncked on the back?

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    It is Listed.
    (April 14, 1975 II Princes Avenue (east side) L8 Merseyside Centre for the Deaf)
    The extension was there before it was Listed.
    It was built 1886-7 as the Adult Deaf and Dumb Institute.

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    The North Corporation Primary School (Bevington Bush, Vauxhall) which you describe as Grade II listed was delisted in 2004 and demolished soon after. The land is currently wasteland although a wall of the school remains.

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    I understand it was once St Bridgets then became the nit nurse clinic and where you got your BCG etc.

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    Put up a new page on my Building at Risk page for Kiln Hey

    http://www.buildingatrisk.co.uk/kilnhey
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    Talking of listings. Does anyone know where in Liverpool you may find a grade II listed structure inside a Grade I listed building, both designed by the same person.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Talking of listings. Does anyone know where in Liverpool you may find a grade II listed structure inside a Grade I listed building, both designed by the same person.?
    Telephone box in the Anglican Cathedral.
    Sir Giles Gilbert Scott.

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    Smile Addition to Liverpool Listed Buildings

    Galkoff`s Kosher Butcher’s shop in Pembroke Place,

    Grade II listed in April 2007 and looks like it will shortly be lost through the deteriorating condition of the city council own neighbouring property.


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    A snippit of info but the tiles that are still on the shop window, I've a picture of the factory which made them - Overbury Street in Edge Hill.

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    Could you post the picture please. Do you have any more information on the company that made the tiles and are you sure it is the correct company.
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    Greenbank Drive Synagogue has been been upgraded to Grade II* (from Grade II). Source: Liverpool Echo 31/1/2008 (page 26). The article states that it closed on Jan 8th.

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    Default DESPERATE TO SAVE GALKOFFS

    the guy who owns galkoff's and has worked tirelessly in his attempt to save the building is still talking <many years> may i add with the city council and other interested parties. he is only too aware of the state of the adjoining building and is desparate for our city fathers to acknowledge the disrepair and act immediately. the guy in question is liverpool born and bred,who is keen for liverpool to retain as much as possible of its heritage,he was responsible for the listing and we should wish him well in his selfless endeavours.

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    The owner, Rob Ainsworth of The Liverpool Heritage Society is a very decent chap indeed, I wish him all the luck in the world, he'll need it with that council. When they have a self inflicted 60m shortfall though, the likes of statues for Chavasse, Epstein or old buildings like this will sadly be bottom of their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    The owner, Rob Ainsworth of The Liverpool Heritage Society is a very decent chap indeed, I wish him all the luck in the world, he'll need it with that council. When they have a self inflicted 60m shortfall though, the likes of statues for Chavasse, Epstein or old buildings like this will sadly be bottom of their agenda.
    Unfortunately true.
    There's another planning application on Tuesday (Town Hall, 9.30) about the proposal to demolish the former Bedford Cinema in Walton.
    English Heritage won't list it, despite the fact the exterior is one of only about five in the UK that date from the first year of building cinemas.
    Just before Christmas workmen took hammers to all the decorative plasterwork on the facade, because the Planning Committee asked them to consider incorporating the facade in the new development.
    I'll go on Tuesday, but I'm not hopeful.

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    Only by accident - certainly not by design.

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    That's surely malicious and criminal damage. Yes, but try proving it, the local scalls will no doubt conveniently get the blame.
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    can you believe things like this are still going on in this day and age????? it defies all sense of decency and pride.

    Haven't they learnt from the sailors home? the david lewis building? the cavern?

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    It's terrible, and heartbreaking to see workmen hacking into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    That's surely malicious and criminal damage. Yes, but try proving it, the local scalls will no doubt conveniently get the blame.
    They own the building.
    It's not Listed.
    They only need to say something stupid like the plasterwork wasn't safe.
    All the decorations in the waiting room (possibly the only one in the country) were pulled off, because they suffered from "damp", yet they were all on interior walls!
    This sort of deliberate vandalism is not new - the interior of the Odeon in Manchester was smashed so it couldn't be Listed.

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    disgusting

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    They own the building.
    It's not Listed.
    They only need to say something stupid like the plasterwork wasn't safe.
    All the decorations in the waiting room (possibly the only one in the country) were pulled off, because they suffered from "damp", yet they were all on interior walls!
    This sort of deliberate vandalism is not new - the interior of the Odeon in Manchester was smashed so it couldn't be Listed.
    It just defies belief that people are this ignorant!

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    as you say Daisychains, it's unbelievable that they would still be destroying stuff like this - in this day and age when we are supposed to be so much more sensitive to our historical buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    as you say Daisychains, it's unbelievable that they would still be destroying stuff like this - in this day and age when we are supposed to be so much more sensitive to our historical buildings.
    here here!

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    The city council is a joke. I went to see the plans and the info on Sandfield Tower on Monday at Millennium House and it was full of reports from poeple trying to demolish it - most of the archives were more concerned with a garden wall that had been knocked down rather than the bloody house itself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    The city council is a joke. I went to see the plans and the info on Sandfield Tower on Monday at Millennium House and it was full of reports from poeple trying to demolish it - most of the archives were more concerned with a garden wall that had been knocked down rather than the bloody house itself!
    I know what you mean.
    It's probably PC to shed Crocodile Tears over something that's already been demolished.
    And it's so much easier than actually doing a bit of work to decide how to save what's left.

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    When I was living in Liverpool a surprising number of listed buildings were destroyed by fire. The excuse given was that it was "caused by the rats".

    All we could think was that the rats were rubbing their legs together and starting a fire.

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    Hello Danensis. Welcome. Did you see the 'now' shots i put up of a couple of your old Albert dock photies?
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    Preservation move threat to £100m Hope Street revamp
    Feb 26 2008
    by Liza Williams, Liverpool Daily Post

    DOUBTS were raised yesterday about the future of a £100m Liverpool development, as a former hospital central in the plans achieved listed status.

    Campaigners submitted an application to English Heritage to list two buildings on Hope Street – including former homeopathic hospital the Hahnemann Building – which are currently subject to plans for conversion into a boutique hotel, apartments and shops.

    The Hahnemann has now been granted Grade II listed status but Maghull Developments, which has put forward a planning application for the part demolition and part conversion are confident the listing will not affect a planning committee decision due today.

    The three storey building was built in 1886-7 and was designed by architects F&G Holme and funded by Sir Henry Tate as a free gift to Liverpool citizens.

    It was originally called the Liverpool Hahnemann Hospital and Dispensary, being renamed the Liverpool Homeopathic Hospital in 1948.

    In recent years it was used as part of Liverpool JMU’s School of Art and Design.

    The current plans would convert the building into a hotel with restaurant, bar, spa and conference facilities. This would involve its partial demolition.

    Campaigners are now waiting to hear whether a application to list neighbouring Josephine Butler House, also included in the development plans, has been successful.

    It was formerly the Radium Institute, and was one of the first places in the country for patients to receive cancer treatments.

    Cllr Berni Turner, executive member for the Environment said: “When I saw the plans for the Hahnemann Building I, along with Cllr Flo Clucas, immediately contacted English Heritage to see if we could get this amazing building listed.

    “It was the first homeopathic dispensary in the country and the second homeopathic hospital and we do not want to lose a building with an amazing history such as that.

    “We have been supported by Save Our City and other organisations and this success in safeguarding part of our history shows the value to the city of having a champion for the historic environment.

    “Now we are campaigning to have Josephine Butler House, which is threatened with demolition, listed.”

    But Mike Hanlon, managing director of Maghull Developments is confident the development will still go ahead.

    He said: “We welcome the news that the Hahnemann building has been granted Grade II listed status and we have worked closely with the local planning authority, conservation officer, Victorian Society and English Heritage for two years to secure this.

    “We presented our scheme to the city council planning officers on the basis that the building already had listed status.

    “We feel confident that our plans will enhance the Hope Street area in general.”

    Wayne Colquhoun, chair of Liverpool Preservation Trust added: “We need some kind of heritage bureau to make sure buildings like this are not threatened in the first place.”

    Source: Liverpool Daily Post

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    Building listed in move on heritage
    Feb 26 2008
    by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo



    A FORMER hospital building at the heart of a £100m city centre development has been listed.

    The Hahnemann building, in Hope Street, is earmarked to become a boutique hotel, with a modern extension.

    But Liverpool council’s request to have the 120-year-old building listed was granted yesterday by English Heritage, which awarded it Grade II status.

    The decision will make it more difficult for owner Maghull Developments to demolish or dramatically alter any part of the former homeopathic hospital.

    Councillors were due to make a decision on the scheme today.

    ECHO columnist Laurence Westgaph has called for the city to “fight tooth and nail” to protect it.

    Source: Liverpool Echo

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