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    Yesterday I was driving along the Four Bridges road to Seacombe and something caught my eye.

    Those familiar with the area will be aware of the existance of the double gates which give access to the Quay Side at Alfred basin. Just to the south of the gates one section of security railing has been removed and two concrete bollards have been installed.

    There is also a finger post with "Public Footpath" pointing towards the lock. Now this modification has only just been done - it wasn't like that a few days ago.

    It would appear that the former public path which led down from near the river to the "A" lift bridge is being reopened.

    For some years there was squabbling between the rambler's and the then MDHC over this right of way.

    So perhaps Peel are trying harder to be better neighbours than their predecessors?

    Since Peel acquired Mersey Docks, despite grumbles, they have tried to benefit the local community.

    The anglers, ship enthusiasts and wildlife people who were denied access to parts of Liverpool Docks by MD&HC in the wake of ISPS regulations post 9/11 have, since Peel entered the scene, been allowed back in.

    Yes things are tighter now and one has to be a member of a related hobby association - but the company as a whole does appear to be much more reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishseashipping.com View Post
    Yesterday I was driving along the Four Bridges road to Seacombe and something caught my eye.

    Those familiar with the area will be aware of the existance of the double gates which give access to the Quay Side at Alfred basin. Just to the south of the gates one section of security railing has been removed and two concrete bollards have been installed.

    There is also a finger post with "Public Footpath" pointing towards the lock. Now this modification has only just been done - it wasn't like that a few days ago.

    It would appear that the former public path which led down from near the river to the "A" lift bridge is being reopened.

    For some years there was squabbling between the rambler's and the then MDHC over this right of way.

    So perhaps Peel are trying harder to be better neighbours than their predecessors?

    Since Peel acquired Mersey Docks, despite grumbles, they have tried to benefit the local community.

    The anglers, ship enthusiasts and wildlife people who were denied access to parts of Liverpool Docks by MD&HC in the wake of ISPS regulations post 9/11 have, since Peel entered the scene, been allowed back in.

    Yes things are tighter now and one has to be a member of a related hobby association - but the company as a whole does appear to be much more reasonable.

    John
    Let's hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    Sorry WW, I never meant that. I was meaning has any other dock been filled in and then emptied of the rubble and refilled with water.
    No. Land by stealth is the aim of Peel and others.
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    Took these on a walk around East Float area yesterday
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    Excellent Joe, There's a great view of Liverpool from there. An amazing view.

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    Landing craft tank LCT7074 lies rusting away in the East Float.The Last surviving craft that took part in the D Day landings,she carried 10 tanks to the Normandy beaches 9 got ashore without being hit.
    At the end of the war she was presented to the Master Mariners of Liverpool
    as a gift by the Admiralty. She became the Clubship Landfall based in Canning Dock before eventually moving to the Bramley Moore Dock.
    She then moved to the East Float as part of The Historic Warships collection
    which sadly went into liquidation,
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    The Landfall night-club ship (converted landing craft LCT 7074) can be seen in Canning Dock. The yellow items on the quays are tower cranes in pieces come over from Ireland.

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    Egerton lift bridge at Birkenhead

    Lock gates on the East Float

    Same gates from the other side showing the old tower which is supposed to be getting developed
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    This is the type in WW2. Note the AA guns and coverings around the wheelhouse that make the funnel look shorter, which also looks like it was chopped off a little:


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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    Landing craft tank LCT7074 lies rusting away in the East Float.The Last surviving craft that took part in the D Day landings,she carried 10 tanks to the Normandy beaches 9 got ashore without being hit.
    At the end of the war she was presented to the Master Mariners of Liverpool
    as a gift by the Admiralty. She became the Clubship Landfall based in Canning Dock before eventually moving to the Bramley Moore Dock.
    She then moved to the East Float as part of The Historic Warships collection
    which sadly went into liquidation,
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    how it once was?


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    My brother tells me Eric Carr ,the Liverpool wood sculpturer was a friend of the owner of Club Landfall and lived aboard as watchman while it was in the Canning.
    In 1971 they were told it would have to move out of the Canning as there were plans for the bridge to be sealed. After moving to the Salthouse the plans for the bridge were cancelled. The Master Mariners the original owners sold it to the new owners for ?15,000 which was a lot of money in those days
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    My brother tells me Eric Carr ,the Liverpool wood sculpturer was a friend of the owner of Club Landfall and lived aboard as watchman while it was in the Canning.
    In 1971 they were told it would have to move out of the Canning as there were plans for the bridge to be sealed. After moving to the Salthouse the plans for the bridge were cancelled. The Master Mariners the original owners sold it to the new owners for ?15,000 which was a lot of money in those days
    It remained in Canning Dock. I went aboard a few times. You could see the taper to the bows inside - the disco. I never knew at the time it contained 5 tanks and put 10 down. 9 got to the beaches Troops were also put down. In the after noon they just walked ashore.

    I'm not sure what time of day it put the tanks down on the beach (Gold Beach on D-Day). In the afternoon there would have been not much opposition as the beach was secured by then. If on one of the earlier a.m. waves, it would have used its twin guns on the rear bridge, when coming ashore firing at German beach positions.

    Towards the end of the war work started to convert her to a maintenance ship in the invasion of Japan. Then Japan surrendered. She was built on the Tyne using American engines.

    I would be great if she was put back to dull D-Day spec including guns.
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    Do you know, when it ceased to be used as a club,and who does it belong to now? It would be a pity to lose it,now!

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    The Landfall Story

    http://evans-experientialism.freeweb...duction001.htm

    My husband and mother-in-law are shown on the1971 photo on Pg3. It's not clear, but they are on they are standing on the far right of the deck.

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    Pigeon loft, Birkenhead docks
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    Sarsia still lying at rest in the West Float,Birkenhead
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    Road bridge over the Birkenhead docks
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    Bascule bridge at birkenhead docks,still working unlike our side of the river
    Taken yesterday on a walkabout

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