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    There ya go gentlemen,even woman can paint ships courtesy of squashedtoad on WC....

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    Hi George,
    that is a very good painting,it conveys a sense of place and all seems to be of correct proportions. Who is the artist and where is the place? It is a picture that I would hang on my wall,thanks.
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    How do,Brian

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    This is a Charles Dixon study of the Great Eastern,it is actually titled "The Great Eastern leaving the River Mersey" but I cannot recognise any parts of the river as being the Mersey. The lighters/barges were never seen on the river in my time,nor can I see whether we are looking north or south. I know that this once great ship became an advertising hulk for Lewis's department store;this painting was not dated clearly and I wondered if any of you Mersey watchers can spot anything that might give a clue to her position,
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    She is leaving Liverpool outward bound and has just left the new Stage. built and opened in June 1847, the Great Eastern was built in 1858, so the Stage was there. So that must be the entrance to Clarence or Trafalgar docks. or somewhere.

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    This is another Shoesmith classic from Glyn L. Evans book.
    We are looking at a Royal Mail "A" Class ship heading west with a "bone" in her teeth.The sea is like glass, and an almost cloudless sky is being tinted with dawns early light. It looks like this could be the Alcantara ,a ship in which my late great uncle Joe was a quartermaster.
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    Thumbs up

    This is the ex Den of Airlie,built for Barrie and Nairn in 1913,she was one of two ships sold to Cunard in 1916,She was renamed Valeria and survived two attacks by U-boats only to run aground on Taylors Bank in the Mersey on the 21st of March 1918 as she approached the end of a passage from New York with a general cargo for Liverpool. She later caught
    fire and became a total loss,
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    The painting is unattributed



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    Default HMS Majestic

    The Majestic class of battleship was the very embodiment of late Victorian power,the flagship of the old queens navy,and guardian of her empire. She was built in 1898,the first of nine,the largest class of steel battleships ever built,armed with four 12 inch guns and 12 to 16 secondary six inch guns.The buff ,white and black livery was inherited from the mid-Victorian ironclads such as Warrior.It was thought at that time that conspicuous displays of power maintained peace ,and supported the expanding wealth of Empire based on trade,capital and investment.
    Premier Gladstones political career was ended by the decision to build up the naval strength and ushered in an era of naval arms races.
    Majestic met her doom off the Gallipoli beachhead when she was sunk by a threat unimagined when she was conceived two decades before,a torpedo from a U-Boat.
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    This picture is from the National Maritime Museum and was executed by Eduardo de Martino in 1898


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    What a magnificent Navy we had in those days.
    There are more ships in that painting than we have in the entire navy today.

    Off to the Pacific Islands Monday. Hawaii, Tahiti ,Rarotonga etc, etc. Hoping to get aboard the CARRIER, USS MIDWAY when we are in San Diego for a few days also the old British Sailing Ship `STAR OF INDIA`. Also having four days on the old QUEEN MARY in Long Beach, so I will get some good photos. back in April.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain kong View Post
    What a magnificent Navy we had in those days.
    There are more ships in that painting than we have in the entire navy today.

    Off to the Pacific Islands Monday. Hawaii, Tahiti ,Rarotonga etc, etc. Hoping to get aboard the CARRIER, USS MIDWAY when we are in San Diego for a few days also the old British Sailing Ship `STAR OF INDIA`. so I will get some good photos. back in April.
    Cheers
    Brian.
    "Endeavour to persevere" CK. You poor thing. Have yourself a good trip, pleasant weather and lots of pics.

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    Cap'n Kong
    I hope you and Anne have a wonderful time,bring us back a coconut,
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    iA ORANA E TE MAU HOPA, EAHA TO ORUA HURU.
    just practicing my Tahitian.
    Murururu, Thanks for that Brian, as long as I dont bring anything else back like the old days.
    I am going to meet up with some of my old mates in Tahiti and Moorea,
    Stan, Tico,, Rico, Eline.
    Matahiti api

    Cheers.
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    brian daley
    Cap'n Kong
    I hope you and Anne have a wonderful time,bring us back a coconut,BrianD



    Hi Brian,
    Here is the Coconut from my friend Eline in Tahiti
    Cheers .Brian,
    Off tomorrow, Monday. back in six weeks.
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    Hi Brian,
    looks scrumptious,coconut looks good as well,
    Via con Dios amigo's
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    She sure does look good Brian
    Be with her in a couple of weeks.
    Back in six weeks
    Sayonara.
    Brian.

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    Powerful one here for ya,chaps...painter is Charles Hoguet.

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    Very good painting George, is there any story attached? Keep 'em coming mate,
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    another

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    You're teasing us now Georgie,posting goodies and not telling us the stories. We can see she is an East Indiaman and she is entering Madras harbour,but who is she and why has she still got her studding sails up? Anyways, I'm posting another one of Kenneth Shoesmiths studies.
    This is the Royal Mail Line Steamer "Thames" on which Shoesmith served as an apprentice in 1911. According to Glyn L. Evans, "Her design with clipper bow and counter stern and raked twin funnels, gave her the appearance of a large private yacht" The ship looks to be in one of the West Indian ports and a Lamport & Holt liner is shown anchored nearby. This angle of view seems to find favour with the artist as he completed many of his ship portraits in a similar manner,
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    Shoesmith was a Mate with Cunard. He has some paintings on the old Queen Mary in Long Beach, He has the Madona of the Sea [ or ships] on board so I will be there Tuesday night and try and take a photio.
    Cheers
    Brian off on my trip to the South Seas in a couple of hours. Back in six weeks.


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    May you have fair winds,silken seas,blue skies and star filled nights,
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    Georgie,
    Another lovely seascape, Painted by Hermanus Koekkoek,a 17th century marine artist,it shows a little schuyt vittling the tall ship in the middle distance. Most probably on the Zuyder Zee.
    I have posted another Thames scene,this one is from the Royal Exchange Art Gallery and is a work by one of the foremost riverine artists,William Lionel Wylie. A greatly experienced yachtsman,Wylie spent many years on the Thames and painted very many pictures of the traffic that plied that waterway,this is entitled "The Thames at Sunset" and manages to make that murky old river look beautiful,hope you like it ,
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    Default America

    This is the vessel that gave her name to the Americas Cup. She was designed by George Steers for John C.Stevens,the Commodore of the New York Yacht Club ,and built 1851 in New York with the express purpose of taking on Britain's formidable Royal Yacht Squadron.
    America made her first transatlantic voyage in the summer of 1851 and Stevens entered her in the 53 mile race around the Isle of Wight in August,Queen Victoria was in attendance.When America crossed the finishing line, her lead was so great that the Queen asked for the name of the vessel in second place. She received the legendary reply "Your Majesty, there is no second" From then on the trophy that Stevens won has been known as The Americas Cup, the most prestigious prize in the yachting world.
    The portrait was painted by the artist John Fraser and hangs in the National Maritime Museum,
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    Default Spithead 1758

    Liverpool had over 20,000 seamen who were employed on the ships that sailed out of this port,a further 10,000 seamen from beyond Merseyside were registered with the pool. Captain Kong and I were discussing this fact just before he departed for his 6 week tour of the Pacific.What we both could not understand was that out of those many thousand why were so few ever seen on this site. It would seem that Old Kong and I are the only ones who regularly contribute;sometimes we hear from Malcolm (Samsette) and occassionally Ernie pops in.We wondered whatever happened to the rest of those old salts,do we bore them?
    Well ,back to business, this study is by a contemporary British marine artist ,Malcolm Myers,a Cornishman born in 1954,he is world famous for his seascapes and historical studies.This work is entitled "Sir Edward Hawkes Fleet at Spithead",a beautifully detailed study,
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    Default HMS Trent

    Another superb Shoesmith study from Glyn L. Evans book.
    Here we can see the Royal Mail Liner Trent in her Admiralty livery,built in 1899 for Royal Mails South American service ,she was conscripted into the Royal Navy in 1915.She served as a depot ship to the Monitors HMS Severn and HMS Mersey ,on their mission to destroy the German light cruiser Konigsberg,which lay trappedby a Royal Naval blockade in the shallow waters of the Rufiji Delta on the East African coast. The story of the voyage the shallow draft monitors made from Brazil to Africas East Coast was epic and is worth looking up. The Trent reverted to Royal Mail Line service after WW1 and was sold for scrap in 1922.
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    This from The New York Times. [full article for download from the site]

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...DD405B888CF1D3

    BUBONIC PLAGUE CAN'T REACH HERE; Royal Mail Line Surgeon Says There Is Little Danger of an Outbreak. LA GUAYRA IS ISOLATED He Thinks the Malady Is More Likely to be Communicated from Black Sea Ports. $4,000 Job for John G. Burnet.
    [ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]
    In the opinion of Dr. William J. Waymark, surgeon of the Royal Mail liner Trent, which sailed for the West Indies and Panama yesterday, there is a greater risk of the bubonic plague being communicated to the United States from Eastern Russia and Asia Minor than there is from Venezuela, where the scourge has been epidemic in the port of La Guayra.

    ---------- Post added at 10:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 AM ----------

    It can be a stormy passage, this ship line lark...

    http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/royalmail.html

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    I have had a look at this as HTML, the Trent is on page 8. Plenty of technical detail: she has 15 kts (whatever that may be?) and was 'dressed' in black at the time of her rescuing post earthquake souls from Jamaica.

    http://www.sdmaritime.org/assets/Upl...imesV4No48.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    [/COLOR]I have had a look at this as HTML, the Trent is on page 8. Plenty of technical detail: she has 15 kts (whatever that may be?) and was 'dressed' in black at the time of her rescuing post earthquake souls from Jamaica.

    www.sdmaritime.org/assets/Uploads/Newsletters/iEuterpeTimesV4No48.pdf
    From page 8 of the pdf file, it sounds like they were just comparing the black hull colour to the mourning clothes of the Jamaicans.

    Thanks for the newsletter link. My son crewed on the Lady Washington (page 7) and
    Hawaiian for several years. The original Lady Washington was tender for the Columbia - whose replica lots of people have seen at Disneyland...

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    Quote Originally Posted by az_gila View Post
    From page 8 of the pdf file, it sounds like they were just comparing the black hull colour to the mourning clothes of the Jamaicans.

    Thanks for the newsletter link. My son crewed on the Lady Washington (page 7) and
    Hawaiian for several years. The original Lady Washington was tender for the Columbia - whose replica lots of people have seen at Disneyland...
    Very true, but Brian's picture and his text shows and speaks of, "the Royal Mail Liner Trent in her Admiralty livery".
    P.S.
    I came across mentions of previous 'Trents', one which played a part in the American civil war which is something that crops up here from time to time too.

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    Hi Oudeis and Az,
    I left a lot of details out of theTrents biog. she was only dressed in grey for 4 short years during her Admiralty service. She normally had buff coloured funnels ,white upperworks and a black hull. The 15 knots refers to her maximum speed.
    Other things mentioned in the biog.are her running aground in 1909, off the coast of Colombia,another RMSP liner,the Magdalena,was despatched to help tow her off.Cargo was jettisoned,but to no avail .She was divested of stores,furniture and movable fittings,she was then refloated and sailed to Southampton for repairs.
    In 1910,while on the New York -Bermuda run,she helped rescue the survivors of the Wellman aiirship America,which was attempting to make the first crossing of the Atlantic by air. The rescue took place in the hours of darkness,when they ropped to the water in their lifeboat;the Trent picked them up and landed them in New York.A couple of tales to tickle ones curiosity!
    Az, I was pleased to read of your sons service on the Lady Washington,was he in the Mercantile Marine? Do you have any more mariners in the family? just interested,that's all,
    BrianD

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