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    found out that Great, great grandad was a fisherman is there any information about the fishing industry in liverpool and how i could find out if he worked on certain boats etc..... any help greatly appreciated am now to all this and have got as far as i think i can


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    Liverpool fishing industry was probably ended with the sale to Milford of the last 3 trawlers Celtia, Goosander,and Gallinule in 1939.
    Then on it was only small boat owners who made a living catching and selling the fish.
    The last full time fisherman,from the Mersey was my brother John seen here mending his nets on the "Cocklehole" slipway in the 1960`s, with his boat the Comrade just below him

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    Thanks greg's dad for the info etc...... do you have any info or direction i can follow to find out if he was assigned to what boat etc...... it was around 1880-91
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    No Jo sorry
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    Thanks Anyway

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    Hi jodie, you could try this site, www.mariners-1.co.uk/UKFishermen.html


    another good site, http://rmhh.co.uk/mariners.html

    hope these sites are of some help, have a nice day

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    Ta Jim, have a great day yourself
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    My late father worked for Tate & Lyle/ Huskisson Transit. I remember well,he often returned from work in the evening (mid 60's)with fresh-fish.I've no idea where it came from;perhaps straight off the boat ?

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    Most probably off our kid, he always had dockers on the quayside waiting for him to come in with his fish at the Coburg Dock.
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    I remember your brother from the mid sixties, I was a Fireman at Coburg Dock Fire station. He often came in for a wash and brush up after a fishing trip and gave us shrimps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbiedog View Post
    I remember your brother from the mid sixties, I was a Fireman at Coburg Dock Fire station. He often came in for a wash and brush up after a fishing trip and gave us shrimps.
    Where was the station?
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    The station was opposite Smith & coggins, at the bottom of Coburg dock avenue, next to the dockers canteen , about 300 yards from the Cockle Hole (South Ferry Basin).

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbiedog View Post
    The station was opposite Smith & coggins, at the bottom of Coburg dock avenue, next to the dockers canteen , about 300 yards from the Cockle Hole (South Ferry Basin).
    I got it!!! I worked at James Troop and went to that canteen and also the one at Brunswick Dock too. They were about the same distance apart from Troops. Wooden tables and benches and the best bacon sandwiches known to mankind.
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    Most probably off our kid, he always had dockers on the quayside waiting for him to come in with his fish at the Coburg Dock.
    Did you ever know Mr Oxton, a fisherman who operated from the Cocklehole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Did you ever know Mr Oxton, a fisherman who operated from the Cocklehole?
    The brother remembers him as he had a habit of breaking down and having to be towed in by my brother, His boat was eventually run down by a tug in the Mersey he escaped with just a ducking. Here`s a picture I took in 1958 of some of the lads from the cocklehole,my brother is the one with the smock on and thats his boat on the left with the canvas on
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    We did a lot of Shipping for James Troop on Sefton Street in the early 1980s, Bob Cain was the man who gave us the work, nice chap he was but I suspect your time there will have been before that John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    We did a lot of Shipping for James Troop on Sefton Street in the early 1980s, Bob Cain was the man who gave us the work, nice chap he was but I suspect your time there will have been before that John.
    Yes. I can't recall that name. What type of shipping? They were ship repairers, with a specialty in engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    The brother remembers him as he had a habit of breaking down and having to be towed in by my brother, His boat was eventually run down by a tug in the Mersey he escaped with just a ducking.
    I recall that ramming. The Echo once had a piece on Mr Oxton who said he was the last fisherman operating in the Mersey. You may know more than me on that.

    He lived behind us and we always had fresh Flukes. He went around to Wales to catch the fish.
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    I had a classmate at Heath Rd.,a boy called Roy Pendleton, when his Dad died ,Roy inherited his fishing boat and I often wondered what happened to him. The last time I saw him he was sweeping St.Mary's Rd. and a more contented young person you would'nt find. Any of you Garston folk recall him? He was hard to miss being of a "generous " build and always had the time of day for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Yes. I can't recall that name. What type of shipping? They were ship repairers, with a specialty in engines.
    Yes, it was engines and spare parts both import and export. We also did lots for Marine manpower services on the industrial estate that was on Ormskirk Road, Aintree before the retail park, a couple of Scottish blokes ran it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Yes, it was engines and spare parts both import and export. We also did lots for Marine manpower services on the industrial estate that was on Ormskirk Road, Aintree before the retail park, a couple of Scottish blokes ran it.
    Troops tended to do ships services: plumbing, electrics, engines, sheet metal. They would make the parts for engines, engine room equipment like steam (steam was used to start the engines), etc, if the part was not available. If a Japanese ship was in and needed a part, because they engiens were totally alien, they would make it.

    They were Rolls Royce engine agents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I recall that ramming. The Echo once had a piece on Mr Oxton who said he was the last fisherman operating in the Mersey. You may know more than me on that.

    He lived behind us and we always had fresh Flukes. He went around to Wales to catch the fish.
    He couldn`t have been the last ,my brother carried on long after Mr Oxton lost his boat.
    BBC TV did a series of programmes called "Through one pair of eyes" featuring our kid and the late Arthur Dooley,the famous sculptor,who our kid was friendly with,on board his fishing nobby. I remember our kid saying to him his sculptures were rubbish and Arthur replying, I know but people are buying them. The old Mersey Mirror ran an article on our kid as Liverpool`s last Fisherman with the whole front page a photo of him.
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    Here he is at 80 still fishing with me outside the Cocklehole only using rods now instead of trawling
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    Still trying to find out info some one gave me some web sites which were good but as i don't know if he was on a ship i am lost again any ideas?
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