Bits "n" Bobs
Thought I'd start a new thread lads.
Anyhoo, I'm trying to get a M.N. Lapel badge for the brother. anyone know of a supplier, I can't find one up here in Jockland.
Or, if any of you lads have a spare, I would be very grateful and let you warm your hands on my roaring candle if you make it over the wall. Indeed,( and this breaks ma heart) coin of the realm could change hands!
I've tried e-bay to no avail, (that means no result Chris.)
Hi Fred I have one somewhere in my "stores", got a million tons of junk in there. if I find it I will let you know, por nada,
if it has disapeared, we, all the old Vindi Boys on here can get one from the Vindi Reunion in August, but meanwhile I will have look.
Will this do until we find a real one??
Last edited by captain kong; 12-01-2008 at 06:27 PM.
Ah! Kevin me boy, it's a trick!
Fred,the items you requested are available from R.C.Derham
The General Secretary ,T.S. Vindicatrix Association, 79 Elliot Rise, Hedge End,
Southampton,Hants, SO30 2RW,
Blazer Badge ,Gold & Silver wire..........?13.50p
M.N. Lapel Badge ?2.00P, both prices include post and packaging. The prices are for Vindi Members ,but you are buying it a Vindi Old boys birthday are'nt you? Ring Roy to check on 01329 280982, best of luck,
p.s. you should'nt have problem because my kids bought me them the same way!!
Thanks Brian, I'll have a go as ---who said? and who played the piano?
Fred, it was'nt him who said it ,and it was'nt a piano it was a flugelhorn!
Don't mention my name to the barman again!!
Many thanks for all the interest lads. Managed to get an address and have set the wheels in motion.
Anyhoo, Brian it was Wilfred Pickles and Violet Carson.
Been looking for this one for years lads. First heard it sung by a group of lads off a Yank in Montreal. I think it is originally Irish.
Have you heard about the big strong man
Who lived in a caravan?
Have you heard about the Johnson Jeffrey fight
Where the black man fought the white?
He plays all the organs in the belfry,
And he wants to fight Jack Dempsey.
So they'll all come out to see (Well who?)
My Brother Sylvester and me.
He's my brother Sylvester
And what has he got?
He's got a row of bloody medals on his chest (Big chest!)
Killed forty thousand Indians in the West,
He takes no rest,
He's got an arm like a leg,
And a fist that would sink a battle ship. (Big ship!)
Takes all the Army and the Navy
To put the wind up Sylvester.
2. He thought he'd take a trip to Italy
He thought he'd take a trip by the sea,
He dived off the pier at New York
And he swam like a man made of cork
. He saw the big ship Lusitania in distress
(So what did he do?)
He swallowed all the water in the sea (Big swallow!)
Put the big ship Lusitania on his chest (Big chest!)
And carried the bloody lot to Italy.
3. He thought he'd take a trip to Arabie
(So what did he do?)
He swam across the old Red Sea
He went to ev'ry harem they had got
And he made a better bloody sheik than all the lot.
All the dancing girls were dancing
And old Sylvester was prancing
And they all fell--Who for?
Well, who d'you think?
That big black bugger Sylvester.
4. Oh, he thought he'd take a trip to old Japan.
And the brought out the whole brass band.
He played every instrument they got
like a lad he sure beat the whole lot.
Oh the old church bells did ring
The old Church choir did sing.
They came out to say farewell
To my big brother, Sylvest.
Anyone else remember it?
Great song that Sylvest, I last heard it on Folk on 2 about 25 years ago,sung by a Manchester folk group.
Bit slack this weekend, I'm off to the 'Pool tomorrow for A Vindi Boys' Christmas Dinner at the Liverpool Arms at midday, been looking forward to it for a couple of months now,will report back on Monday,
Well lads ,the Vindi Christmas party was a great success, there were a lot of old timers there,no doubt some of you will have sailed with them. The thing is ,time has played havoc with our bodies and features so that we are no longer the sylph-like things we used to be. I could'nt recognise most of them and they would have had the same problem with me! There were some young people there ,relatives of Vindi old boys,and there were a lot of ladies there too,some were wives and some had served on the old liners that used to sail out of Liverpool. So an afternoon went by in the blink of an eye, much enjoyment,and good solid nosh ,was had by all and sundry .I was exhausted by the time I got back to Tamworth, exhausted,but happy. I look forward to next years do.
I'm going to get an early night tonight for tomorrow I have a very pleasurable task, I'm bringing (notice I never said taking) my Egyptian son in law on his first visit to my home town. I will be starting off at the Williamson Tunnels where I will be picking up some copies of the part of my story that has been published by the Garston Historical Society. I will also have my two ten year old grandchildren with me and am undecided what to do next; the Palm House at Sefton Park ? A ride on the ferry? The World Museum .............Crosby and Seaforth? I have to be heading back to the Midlands at 4.00p.m.. Problems ,problems,nice ones ,but problems;so much to see ,so little time. Say hello if you should run into us,we'll be easy to recognise,Father Christmas ,a real life Sheikh a blonde girl and a dark boy,both pre teen. See ya!!
How about taking them them round Liverpool 1! It looks quite festive right now,with a multiscreen cinema,loads of restaurants/cafes,and it connects up well,with other parts of town,and the Albert dock.
A rainy Saturday in Liverpool
The journey from Tamworth to Liverpool was conducted in the pouring rain,fog like spray thrown up by the wheels of the juggernauts made driving hazardous. 2 hungry children wanting breakfast added to the urgency of getting there. Luckily for us ,the rain slackened as we neared Liverpool and we were able to make our entry in safety. After picking up the parcel of books from Barbara at the Williamson Tunnels we made haste to town and succour for our starving young. A visit to the German market satisfied my son inlaws and my dietary needs,2 huge venison burgers and a bag of doughnuts; is'nt great pigging out when your wife is'nt there to tell you how bad things are for you. We went to Liverpool ! ,which satisfied the retail needs of our two young visitors,the rain being so bad we paid a short visit to see the new developements at the Pier Head and then went to the Anglican Cathedral where we were all impressed by the ecumenical splendour. The wood carvings on the altar in the Lady chapel were especially good to look at. The most spectacular sight in the cathedral was that of a stonemason working away at the top of the main tower,tourists stood with mouths agape as they stood craning upwards watching him work in seeming mid air. We then went to the Catholic cathedral where we were lucky to hear the mighty organ being played with gothic gusto,all 4602 pipes giving full vent to one of Saint Saeans marvellous compositions.. It was off to Sefton Park then to see that wonderful Palm House and the Peter Pan sculpture,that same one that so delighted me as a child. There was a christmas party in progress at the Palm House but that did not prevent us seeing the wonderful array of tropical plants that bloomed within. Tired and and sodden we retreated to the car and made our way home, satisfied that we had had a good ,though short,day out in my old home.
Great summary and pics Brian. It looks like you all had a great time.
Christmas at sea
I was driving to work this morning when an old Christmas hit was played on the radio. It was from the late 50's , so banal that I have forgotten what it was called already. However it did trigger a few memories of the times that I had spent Christmas at sea,some occassions sad,some happy and one in particular that was filled with drama.
Come on ,let's get nostalgic and recall the Christmas's that you remember most,whether it be sad,happy or otherwise.
The one I remember most is the one I never had. We were crossing the Pacific on our way to Adelaide. The captain had a choice of when to forward the clocks 24 hours as we were crossing the international date line. He chose to forward the clock early, to go from 24th to 26th December, to avoid a day's overtime for the crew.
A very Happy Christmas to all at the Liverpool Sailors site. And to all the Cunard Yanks - don't take any wooden nickels.
Nice to see you - a very special wish from me, may you and your family have a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year.
Happy Christmas to you and your families, Malc, and Chris. All the Best to you all
I'm still here lads, had a bit of a weird November and beginning of December. Hospital visiting Anne's old Mum, (96 not out) and she goes back in again on Saturday.
ANYHOO, NOVENA WILL DEFINATELY BE BACK NEXT WEEK IN ANOTHER THRILLING EPISODE.
HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS LADS.
Good to hear from you again Fred,and even better that we shall be having another episode next week. It is just a few hours away from Christmas morn and I am taking this opportunity to wish us all a great time for the festive period,
Happy Christmas ,
I'm posting this here because it neither one thing or another. I've had a few scotch and am feeling philosophical.
The thing I wish to expound upon during this special night is the balance of good and evil.
As children ,our ideas of good and evil were given to us by our elders,parents ,teachers ,churchmen et al. To love and forgive was good ,to kill and cause harm was evil. A major war had just been concluded when I started school, we knew ,almost instinctively,that war was the devils work and that god was on our side. At school we were given a christian grounding and started each day with a hymn and the national anthem. We were instilled with a belief that good, and god, were more powerful than evil and the devil.
Now, in my near 67 years of life, I have seen a lot of good and selfless acts carried out by men and women that were of great value to society and to the enhancement of life. On the other side of the coin I have seen a non stop parade of atrocities perpetrated against humanity by governments and industry that have led to the deaths of countless millions. The list grows longer everyday,Congo ,Zimbabwe,Iraq ,Afghanistan, Ossetia ,etc, etc ,etc,.
William Booth ,the founder of the Salvation Army ,once asked "Why should the Devil have all the best tunes ?" I think the answer is that it is because he is more popular. When you look at what the global spend is on the weapons of death and destruction and then compare the figure with that which is spent on hospitals ,education and famine relief the balance between good and evil weighs heavily on the side of the devil.
On the eve of the birth of the man who was born to be our saviour, I think a little time spent on reflection of what is meet and good would not be wasted.
How old are you?
This is a rag bag of questions that may show how old you really are,anyone can join in
"You've never had a smoother shave when you shave with......" ?
" You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with.."?
"...... .... the too good to hurry mint" ?
"you'll look a little lovelier each day with fabulous .... ....." ?
"Don't just say Brown say..........." ?
What "..gives a meal man appeal "?
What.."Keeps a man right on top " ?
" Someones Mum does'nt know what someones Mum ought to know.." What ?
What was "New...far and away the most exotic chocolate treat " ?
"Take a tip ,take ....... todays cigarette is a ....... " Name that fag
What "Beats as it sweeps as it cleans "?
Those Radio Days
Dick Barton Special Agent ,who was the star and what was the name of the theme tune
Who was Archie Andrews first tutor
Who were the Huggetts and what was the name of their neighbours
Who was the star of A Life of Bliss
What show did Kurt Massey and Martha Tilton appear on (Radio Luxemburg)
Who took a Journey into Space
Who was Ted Rays radio wife
Who were the scriptwriters of Take it From Here
What date was Princess Elizabeth proclaimed Queen
What month and year was the film High Noon released
What date did the liner United states make it first sea trials
When was King Farouk ousted from Egypt
What weightlifter from Liverpool appeared in the 1952 Olympics
Who were the Mau Mau
When did Humphrey Bogart die
What is the Atomium and where is it
Who was Johnny Stompanato
When did I Love Lucy stars lucy and Desi Arnez file for divorce
Thats all folks , see if you can answer them by 2009
some of the answers
3 murray mints
4 Pink cama
9 Bounty bar
11 Hovver upwright
mau mua were the freedom fighters (or rebles) in kenya
Have to think of the rest.
I can remenber in the mid 1950's my father would hum a song and the words that went something like your song. Here is a bit of history about this Irish pub song as I remember it in Belfast.(Acknowledgement..To Edward O?Connor ) for the information provided.
Irish History in Song
Many pub songs, though popularized and spread by Irish artists, are from all over the world. For instance, the origin of ?The Wild Rover??a quintessential Irish pub song, is hotly contested. Here?s a fun song, most likely of American origin, which you often hear played by Irish bands. It?s a great example of the cross-polination of folk music in the English-speaking world, a historical process that?s gone on for some time, rooted in our common cultural background & shared experiences.
While it doesn?t address Ireland specifically, it refers to some events in American and world history. The Jeffries-Johnson fight was in 1910, and the Lusitania sank in 1915. Jack Dempsey was world heavyweight champion from 1919 to 1926. Given all that, dating this song to the 1920s is a pretty reasonable conjecture. It spread the world via Allied soldiers of various countries (notably, Canadian forces1) during WWII.
As with many other pub songs, the audience has lines of its own, to be inserted in all the right places. (I?ve indicated audience lines in parentheses.)
Have you heard about the big strong man
He lives in a caravan
Did you hear about the Jeffries-Johnson fight
Oh, what a hell of a fight!
You can take all the heavyweights you got
We got a lad who could beat the whole lot
He used to ring the bells in the belfrey
Now he?s gonna fight Jack Dempsy
He was me brother, Sylveste (What?s he got?)
A row of 40 medals on his chest (a big chest)
He killed 50 bad men in the West
He knows no rest
Think of the man, Hell?s fire!
Don?t push, just shove
Plenty of room for you and me
He?s got an arm (he?s got an arm)
Like a leg (a lady?s leg!)
And a punch that would sink a battleship (big ship)
It?d take all the Army and the Navy
To put the wind up Sylveste
Well, he thought he?d take a trip to Italy
He thought that he?d go by sea
He jumped off the harbor in New York
And he swam like a man made of cork
He saw the Lusitania in distress (So what?d he do?)
He put the Lusitania on his chest (a big chest!)
He drank all the water in the sea
And he walked all the way to Italy
Well he thought he?d take a trip to old Japan
They turned out the whole brass band
He played every instrument they got
Like a lad, sure he played the whole lot
Now the old church bells will ring (Hell?s bells!)
And the whole church choir will sing (Hell?s fire!)
They all turned out to say farewell
To my big brother Sylveste
Hope you enjoyed it..
HAPPY NEW YEAR
I WISH ALL MEMBERS A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR for 2009
Hope you had a great New Party down there on Norfolk Island,loved your version of Sylveste,remember it well being sung ,mainly by Mancunians,must be a Lancashire song(how many Scousers do you know called Sylveste?)
Well it's 2009 now and I hope that this New Year brings us all closer together now,but I'll start the 2009 with a maritime question.....
Which ship started life with three funnels ,cut them down to two and finished her days with one ?
There's a whole load of other questions still awaiting answers from last year too!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
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