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    Default New Central station: wait another 12 years

    New Central station: wait another 12 years

    Nov 29 2008 by Ben Schofield, Liverpool Daily Post

    LIVERPOOL?S Central Station could be expanded or rebuilt in 2020 to cope with growing passenger numbers, Network Rail announced yesterday.

    But Merseyside?s senior transport councillor has hit out at the plans saying they will be delivered too late.

    Network Rail, which owns the stations and tracks, started a 12-week consultation on the future of the city region?s rail infrastructure yesterday.

    Its Route Utilisation Strategy (RUS) for Merseyside could see an ?immediate package of investment? to increase Central Station?s capacity in the short term. This would be completed by 2015 at the earliest.

    The RUS document also suggests building a new station or underground platform between 2020 and 2025.


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    The station has only just missed out on ?12m of funding. In October, the Office for Rail Regulation (ORR) turned down a bid application from Merseytravel to overhaul Central Station.

    The transport authority asked for the money after branding it ?a tip? that poses safety concerns as passenger numbers continue to increase over the coming years.

    Around 60,000 passengers use the station, on Ranelagh Street, every day. It has seen usage grow by more than 50% over the past five years.

    Network Rail came under fire for apparently dumping Central Station from its plans.

    Merseytravel chair Cllr Mark Dowd last night hit out at the timescale being put forward: ?I will almost be dead by 2015. It?s not acceptable. How can we talk about something in seven years? time, it?s ridiculous.

    ?Network Rail are doing absolutely nothing except charging us for the stations.

    ?All we are asking for is Liverpool?s fair share of finance and we?re just not getting it.?

    He plans to confront Network Rail at Merseytravel?s rail services committee in January.

    A spokesman for Network Rail said: ?We believe that some small-scale work can be done to create enough capacity to accommodate the growth at Central Station, after five years we will need to look at it again and increase capacity further.?

    Other plans in the RUS include lengthening peak-time services in Liverpool with the introduction of a new train fleet in 2014.

    Daytime services from Chester to Liverpool could increase from every half-hour to every 15 minutes. Trains could also run faster.

    Between 2014 and 2019, the Merseyrail network could expand with a new route to Skelmersdale.

    Network Rail says it will redraft the RUS after the consultation ends, with firm plans published next spring.

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    I used it last time I was home to get to Cressington it was packed. That was the weekend of the tall ships. The South Liverpool line is very handy. I imagine that the same goe's for north Liverpool, and over the water. They really should look after these service's
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    I like the Northern line when I've used It to get to Hall Road In Crosby from St Michael's. You really see how much of an eye sore some of Bootle Is though and how better It gets the more north you go.

    Hate the Wirral line though, takes over half an hour to West Kirby and theres no train to the south western areas of the Wirral beyond West Kirby. There Is trains from Bidston to Heswall and some of the south western Wirral areas and such but thats for to go to Wales and you'd have to get off and get another train from Bidston for that.

    Went to Thurstaston earlier and had to cycle for a while from West Kirby to get to It.
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    First of all please I am sorry for my English...
    Please could you tell me how to contact a member of your community his name is Taffy. I think he can help me because few month ago he wrote:

    "Frances Morton and Co. Ltd. was of course based in Garston and was a major steel fabrication company. A particular speciality was prefabricated buildings, churches etc which they exported world wide. The business had its roots in Cable St Liverpool in 1766. Unfortunately like most of the original dockside industry in Garston, it is no more."

    I am very interested to receive some information about this extraordinary steelwork company. Please could you tell me more about his history. I believe it was founded by two engineers but I couldn't find any information about them. Could you tell me what happened with the Co.? Are they still working with another brand name?
    I am from Buenos Aires and here we have a very important iron building from 1910-1915 made by English architect Eustace Lauriston Counder: the Railroad Central Terminal. In those days it has cost ? 2.000.000... and Francis Morton build it, thousand of tons of iron shipped from Liverpool!

    I will appreciate very much your help, thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaltecnicas View Post
    First of all please I am sorry for my English...
    Please could you tell me how to contact a member of your community his name is Taffy. I think he can help me because few month ago he wrote:

    "Frances Morton and Co. Ltd. was of course based in Garston and was a major steel fabrication company. A particular speciality was prefabricated buildings, churches etc which they exported world wide. The business had its roots in Cable St Liverpool in 1766. Unfortunately like most of the original dockside industry in Garston, it is no more."

    I am very interested to receive some information about this extraordinary steelwork company. Please could you tell me more about his history. I believe it was founded by two engineers but I couldn't find any information about them. Could you tell me what happened with the Co.? Are they still working with another brand name?
    I am from Buenos Aires and here we have a very important iron building from 1910-1915 made by English architect Eustace Lauriston Counder: the Railroad Central Terminal. In those days it has cost ? 2.000.000... and Francis Morton build it, thousand of tons of iron shipped from Liverpool!

    I will appreciate very much your help, thank you very much.
    On this forum, do a search on "Everton Church", St, Micheal's Church", "St. Jame's Church". These are iron framed churches and amongst the earliest in the world. Also search on "Oriel Chambers", the world's first steel framed, glass curtain walled building in the world. All in Liverpool.

    I'm sure Taffy will be along he is a regular.



    English architect Eustace Lauriston Counder and three collaborators were given the project of constructing a new station with a French style. It was finished in 1914 and the result was one of the biggest stations in the world, as well as the biggest metallic construction of its kind.

    It was the largest steel framed building in the world at the time.

    The oldest passenger railway in the world is Liverpool to Manchester, and one of the oldest rail tunnels is the long Wapping Tunnel under the city, which is disused and may be reused again. If so, it will be the oldest underground rail section in the world and the oldest used rail tunnel of any type.


    Frances Morton did the steelwork for the Liverpool Overhead Railway - The first elevated electric railway. demolished in 1957.



    Yes, the city pioneered many advances in iron framing and railways and had strong links with Argentina: Vesty, etc.

    Best of luck.
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    Typical. If it was in Greater manchester, they'd be bending over backwards to throw money at it.
    This economic bias has got to be challenged at the highest levels of Government.

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