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    Liverpool?s Pier Head aims to become a base for cruise liners
    Dec 16 2008
    by David Bartlett, Liverpool Daily Post

    TALKS are under way to secure ?significant investment? for upgrading Liverpool?s Pier Head to become a base for cruise liners to start and finish their journeys, it emerged last night.

    Liverpool City Council (LCC) and Peel Ports ? which owns Mersey Docks and Harbour Company (MDHC) ? are negotiating for baggage handling facilities, Customs, or immigration services to be developed near the Cruise Liner Terminal.

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    That's fab news Howie. I was suprised to learn that these facilities were not available anyway, could this not have been sorted during the initial planning and building a few years ago, did know one as 'the question'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    That's fab news Howie. I was suprised to learn that these facilities were not available anyway, could this not have been sorted during the initial planning and building a few years ago, did know one as 'the question'?
    Competition laws dictating development hand outs. Liverpool could not have a terminal because Mostyn on the North Wales/River Dee coast had just financed a terminal from public money. This is what happens when everything has to wait for a hand out - there are always conditions. Mostyn got the money for a proper terminal, so Liverpool had to make do with a "port of call facility'. Amazing when Liverpool was the major ship passenger port of the UK.

    Ships have to approach Mostyn through a very narrow channel - the River Dee is little more than a very wide ditch. It does not have the capacity to take a number of large cruise ships. Mostyn is little more than a village. Practical aspects like ships not able to use the grant funded terminal project don't come into it.

    The old Pier Head passenger processing facilities were extensive - they were taken apart in the 1970s. They echoed the facilities in Ellis Island in New York - a fantastic sight.

    Back in the 1960's a similar situation arose with the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board, when asked by the shipping companies to improve the facilities at the Pier Head for passengers. They said they were not interested, and were going to close the Riverside rail station too.

    After around 200 years, the last scheduled trans-Atlantic passenger service left Liverpool in 1972, a Canadian Pacific Liner to Montreal - 1/2 million people lined the river see to her off. So, on the surface it appeared that MDHB were right as air travel was rapidly pushing liner travel into obscurity. However, even then the cruise liner business was clearly an upcoming market and probably what the ship owners were looking at for the future. MDHB, even closed the south end docks prematurely. The large Brunswick Dock could have easily have gone on to this day - the further up river Garston Docks are still operative, even via an expensively dredged channel. First year business students could have done more, the business acumen of MDHB was so poor.
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    Any one got a timetable of the liners visiting Liverpool this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by tezmac View Post
    Any one got a timetable of the liners visiting Liverpool this year
    My web site currently has a listing of cruise ship calls at most Irish Sea ports. The Liverpool entry can be found by scrolling down the England file.

    http://www.irishseashipping.com/minf...sENGLAND09.htm

    Please note that this is not yet complete and the information is forwarded to me by someone who has made an indepth study of many cruise line 2nd Edition brochures and may be subject to change.

    Calls are subject to change and note the colour coding - calls at the stage are shown in red. Black indicates Langton Cruise terminal.

    In due course an official list is likely to appear on Peel Ports web site - however at present http://www.merseydocks.co.uk/downloads/ is still showing the 2008 list.

    Hope this helps

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    The Culture Company has a downloadable list of cruise liners visiting the city http://sites.liverpool08.com/cruise/...ndar/index.asp here.

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    Ark Royal tomorrow according to the Echo:
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    The river reflecting in the windows of the museum you can see the Ark in the left hand corner

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    Left Kirkby at 1300hrs was on the ferry at 1400 hrs all on public transport for free, ee it`s good being a pensioner.
    Weather wasn`t very bright.I wonder if any of thse were Yo Liverpool members
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    The river reflecting in the windows of the museum you can see the Ark in the left hand corner

    framed in the structure of the ferry



    Left Kirkby at 1300hrs was on the ferry at 1400 hrs all on public transport for free, ee it`s good being a pensioner.
    Weather wasn`t very bright.I wonder if any of thse were Yo Liverpool members
    On the ball again GD. Good pictures!

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    [QUOTE=gregs dad;.
    .I wonder if any of thse were Yo Liverpool members[/QUOTE]



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