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    My apologies if this has been discussed before, but todays Guardian carried an article about the so-called 'Costa Metallica' at Langton Dock. Apparantly, this mountain of scrap metal has resulted in a travel company- TUI Travel- withdrawing a programme of 30 cruises from Liverpool after a couple of trials because the tourists didn't approve of the surroundings at Langton ie. the huge mound of scrap metal, when they disembarked, meaning a loss of ?4.5m in port fees. According to the travel company, they can't use the Pier Head because it doesn't have any customs or immigration facilities, they are only provided by Peel at Langton Dock. What does everyone think? Why hasn't the Pier Head got customs and immigration facilities?


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    Hello Chris. There is another thread on here http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/liv...rminal-52.html

    The last posting on which describes the hope for a customs point at the new cruise terminal. According to Roger phillips on the BBC Radio Merseyside phone-in, Cruise companies plan about 4 years in advance and Thompson's plans were never to be at liverpool for more than this year and it was known from the outset that Langton dock was going to be their calling point as other world cities use working docks for their point of calls too.

    It is a pity though that the cruise terminal cannot be extended by either demolishing that criss cross wooden structure just to the north of the new terminal or if it has to stay, then incorporate it into a longer landing stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    It is a pity though that the cruise terminal cannot be extended by either demolishing that criss cross wooden structure just to the north of the new terminal
    That was the cattle stage. Cattle was unloaded there. The idea was that at any stage of the tidal fall the floating landing stage was adjacent to a level on the wooden section, so the cows could walk up to the top.
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    Now that is interesting!

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    Interesting is correct ... You would of thought the planning commission would have thought of this immigration/customs office, before they embarked on cruise liners coming into the City.. Especially for 08..Is the money lost in the City Storefronts?

    I would think that a Customs Office would be automatic..not to be deverted for people to disembark at a cattle ramp???

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    Competition laws dictating development hand outs. Liverpool could not have a terminal because Mostyn on the North Wales/River Dee coast had just financed a terminal from public money. This is what happens when everything has to wait for a hand out - there are always conditions. Mostyn got the money for a proper terminal, so Liverpool had to make do with a "port of call facility'. Amazing when Liverpool was the major ship passenger port of the UK.

    Ships have to approach Mostyn through a very narrow channel - the River Dee is little more than a very wide ditch. It does not have the capacity to take a number of large cruise ships. Mostyn is little more than a village. Practical aspects like ships not able to use the grant funded terminal project don't come into it.

    The old Pier Head passenger processing facilities were extensive - they were taken apart in the 1970s. They echoed the facilities in Ellis Island in New York - a fantastic sight.

    Back in the 1960's a similar situation arose with the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board, when asked by the shipping companies to improve the facilities at the Pier Head for passengers. They said they were not interested, and were going to close the Riverside rail station too.

    After around 200 years, the last scheduled trans-Atlantic passenger service left Liverpool in 1972, a Canadian Pacific Liner to Montreal - 1/2 million people lined the river see to her off. So, on the surface it appeared that MHDB were right. However, even then the cruise liner business was clearly an upcoming market. HDHB, even closed the south end docks prematurely. The large Brunswick Dock could have easily have gone on to this day - the further up river Garston Docks are still operative, even via an expensively dredged channel. Business students could have done more, their business acumen was so poor.
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