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    Default Baltic Triangle and Queens Dock Areas

    THE biggest-ever private housing development in the heart of Liverpool will provide more than 850 homes, the Daily Post can reveal today.

    London-based developers The Windsor Group will this week deliver a massive vote of confidence in Liverpool's continuing renaissance by submitting a planning application for their 270m project within the Baltic Triangle area.

    The company wants to attract families back into the heart of the city by building three-bedroomed homes, which will stand opposite the dockside Wapping Warehouse development.

    The scheme for the site - between Blundell Street, Jamaica Street and Wapping - envisages the creation of eight new buildings, comprising 851 mainly two and three bed apartments. There will also be 70,000 sq ft of leisure, retail and office space.

    The project is the latest phase in the Windsor Group's L1 development, which proposes to transform an inner-city industrial area into a new vibrant city centre quarter.

    Work is already well under way on Windsor's first phase - three residential buildings which are taking shape on the site once occupied by ships' chandlers Joseph T Lamb.

    Windsor Group director Roger Darwin said last night: "This application demonstrates our confidence in Liverpool's future.

    "We are proposing a 270m investment to create a series of stunning buildings and linked spaces on a key site between The Paradise Street Project and King's Waterfront development areas, supporting the aims of Liverpool Vision's emerging masterplan for the area.

    "I believe that each of these developments, including our own, adds to and enhances the others, and together they will totally transform this southern area of the city centre into an area bustling with an attractive retail offer, commercial facilities, high quality apartments and hotels which will vastly improve visitor options."

    Mr Darwin added: "We are not seeking to replicate what is already on offer in abundance in Liverpool city centre, nor are we interested in building single-bed boxes for the investor market.

    "We believe that by providing higher quality and more spacious apartments we will attract a new and more diverse residential population.

    "We believe that The Baltic Triangle is the right place to build a new kind of residential community and the L1 development is offering the right product."

    Phil Furlong, from property specialists Venmore Thomas & Jones, said last night: "This is going to have a tremendous impact on the city as we are almost building a new location. It will attract a different type of buyer, the sort of buyer who hasn't been particularly attracted to Liverpool before.

    "The apartments are for the discerning purchaser who can afford to buy the best. This is an exciting addition to the Liverpool property market."



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    PLANS to build the biggest-ever private housing development in the heart of Liverpool would be disastrous for the city, regeneration experts warned last night.

    The 270m Baltic Triangle scheme would see more than 850 homes built opposite the dockside Wapping Warehouse site.

    But yesterday it was claimed the eight apartment blocks harked back to 1960s tower blocks and would soon become a blot on the city's landscape.

    Cllr Steve Munby, Labour spokesman for regeneration, said: "This would be disastrous for the city. We would be left with the 21st century of 1960s tower blocks, which would blight the city for generations to come.

    "We are in real danger of repeating the mistakes made 40 years ago.

    "We need something much more sophisticated than this. It should be used for a mixture of green space and retail, not just flats. "

    "This is a very important site. It is the fulcrum of the Kings Dock, Paradise Street, the Ropewalks, the cathedrals and the regeneration to the south of the city.

    "We don't need vast numbers of characterless blocks forming an impermeable obstacle on that land."

    London-based developers the Windsor Group has submitted a planning application for the scheme, which spans the area between Blundell Street, Jamaica Street and Wapping. Although it has been billed by the company as a development of family homes, it is made up mainly of two and three bed apartments.

    Work has already started on phase one of the scheme, three residential buildings on the site once occupied by ships' chandlers Joseph T Lamb..

    The scheme also includes 70,000 sq ft of leisure, retail and office space.

    Liverpool's city centre population is expected to grow by 57% over the next decade

    But a recent Centre for Cities report, by the Institute for Public Policy Research, found that students would still form the largest proportion of those moving in and out of the L1 postcode.

    Liverpool University civic design senior lecturer Sue Kidd said: "There are developments coming in to the city, but one of the biggest criticisms from people is that there are not the services they would expect for a residential environment."

    Roger Darwin, Windsor group director, said: "Cllr Munby's response to a 270m investment that will create 600 new jobs and bring in 2,000 residents is incomprehensible.

    "We believe we can attract new people into the city centre by offering a new product within a new, residential development.

    "It is not feasible or desirable to propose low-density suburban dwelling in a city centre area like the Baltic Triangle."

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    Default L1 the spirit of new Liverpool



    Welcome to L1, at the centre of a World Heritage City and in the heart of Europe's Capital of Culture.

    L1 is the spirit of new Liverpool - a vibrant modern metropolis re-emerging as a major international destination. L1 is vital, vivacious, distinctive, desirable, audacious and adventurous.

    L1 is a place, an identity, an attitude, a lifestyle.

    3 Buildings: The Liberty | Lexington | Lincon

    Currently a huge building site next to the Paradise Street development, right in front of the Formule 1 hotel
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    They have got going on this:







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    Ohhhhh! How did you get in there, Kev?


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    Dave, behind the Baltic Fleet. It is exposed there apart from a 6ft metal fence and I just climbed up.
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    Default Heap's Rice Mill

    THE 60m plan to transform one of Liverpool's oldest dockside buildings, Heap's Rice Mill, into luxury apartments moved a stage closer yesterday.

    Plans for a residential complex have been lodged with city council planners by US developers Apollo Bannertown.

    Heap's Rice Mill development, situated within the city's Baltic Triangle and bordered by Rope Works, the Paradise Street Development Area and King's Waterfront, will consist of 355 one and two-bed apartments.

    There will also be 200 car parking spaces available and a new public square and gardens.

    The old warehouse, overlooking the Albert Dock, will be converted and there are proposals for two new buildings on the site in a scheme entirely funded by private money and cost around 60m.

    The scheme will create 200 construction jobs for local workers, as well as preserving and refurbishing the historic Heap's Rice Mill.

    The scheme will now be assessed by planning officers before being put to the council's planning committee later this year.

    If the go-ahead is given by councillors, the aim is to start work later this year and complete the project in 2008.

    Meanwhile, in a separate scheme a few hundred yards away, Channel Islands-based Lotta Properties want to build a 22-storey residential tower.

    Jason Gray, from the Liverpool office of chartered surveyors Gerald Eve, brought the Heap's site to Apollo Bannertown's attention.

    He said: "Its enviable position between King's Waterfront, Albert Dock and Paradise Street means it always offered the potential for a prestigious landmark development.

    It's within walking distance of some of Liverpool's key commercial and leisure destinations and close to a number of major development sites that will transform Liverpool over the next five years.

    "The mill's architectural heritage meant we needed a developer with flair and imagination as well as financial muscle. This development is particularly in tune with the growing demands of city living and the images show just how well Apollo Bannertown has responded to this unique development opportunity."


    Developers Apollo Bannertown is a collaboration of Surrey-based property group Bannertown and Apollo Real Estate Advisors, an international company based in America.

    Lotta Properties, based in St Helier, Jersey, have hired Manchester architects Chapman Robinson to design a new residential scheme at Queens Dock, close to Leo's Casino.

    As well as the 22-storey tower, there will be a three storey block housing duplex apartments along with garden decks overlooking the dock.

    There will also be a health club for residents' use.
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    This is a massive scheme this I remember seeing the pictures on skyscraper city and I'd love to see it win approval,that story is taking a positive slant on things so that's usually a good sign.

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    What about the Baltic Fleet pub? Will that be saved?!
    Be gutted if not, it's one of the best pubs in town!

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    Its staying as far as I know, it appears in the foreground of one of the renders

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt
    What about the Baltic Fleet pub? Will that be saved?!
    Be gutted if not, it's one of the best pubs in town!
    The baltic Fleet is defo going nowhere.

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    I hope the colour scheme is toned down a bit it's like something they'd build in Leeds.

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    Exclamation Queens Dock Tower

    Queens Dock Tower

    Queens Dock Tower is a 15m mixed development with flats, health club with swimming pool some shops and bars. The architect explored 3 options with regard to the position of the tower and chose the southerly position because it had less visual impact from Parliament St, Chaloner St & Sefton St.

    The building is clad with a smooth skin of varied coloured glazed panels and sheet zinc cladding.

    The height to the roofline was given as 67.m and 68.5m to the top of a fin.















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    I really like this I'd love the Waterfront to continue as far as Otterspool with unusual classy buildings like this I hope it gets approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D
    I really like this I'd love the Waterfront to continue as far as Otterspool with unusual classy buildings like this I hope it gets approved.
    Anything is better than whats there at the moment. The Vermont Tower opposite should compliment the area quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev
    Anything is better than whats there at the moment. The Vermont Tower opposite should compliment the area quite well.
    I know the potential for the Baltic Triangle area is unbelievable so let's hope these projects get approved and give us a bit of balance with our skyline,the south end at the moment is sadly lacking but I've a feeling that's about to change.

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    ALMOST 200 building workers have been laid off after work stopped again at a 50m luxury flats scheme in Liverpool.

    Construction group Laing O'Rourke said it suspended building work at the L1 development on the Baltic Triangle after talks with its client, Liverpool based Windsor Developments.

    Negotiations between the two companies took place in London on Wednesday and will resume again today, but both sides declined to comment on reasons for the latest suspension, which follows another hold-up in June when builders were withdrawn from the job.

    A Laing O'Rourke spokesman would only say: "Laing O'Rourke can confirm that on Monday, July 31, after discussions with its client, it suspended work on the L1 project in Liverpool."

    A Windsor statement added: "We are in detailed discussions with Laing O'Rourke regarding the next phase."

    But builders at the site told the ECHO, during their mid-morning break, that 40 staff were laid off a fortnight ago, 50 went last week and 100 more will be laid off this week.

    "We're just stripping out the job now before we leave," said one, who asked not to be named.

    Laing O'Rourke said they try to find alternative work for staff in such situations: "Some of the workers have moved off-site.

    Laing O'Rourke always investigates opportunities to relocate staff to other projects and this process is underway," the spokesman said.

    The L1 project comprises three blocks of luxury apartments. The first phase is worth 50m and the second phase is valued at 270m.

    In early June, Laing O'Rourke with-drew 60 staff from the L1 scheme while Windsor held talks with its bankers about a "wider funding package" for the project as a whole.

    L1 is completely separate to the 920m Liverpool One scheme by Grosvenor on nearby Paradise Street.
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    Sorry but those Artist's impressions don't do the Queens Dock tower any justice. Hopefully the building will be more pleasing to look at in the flesh!

    But it's great to see some development comming further down the Dock Road, I know that the Marina and everything is down here but hopefully the skyline will have more to boast about rather than the gasometer from Bread!
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    Both the Heaps Rice mill and Queens Dock Tower developments were approved by council yesterday.

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    The tower will be visible to traffic heading down Upper Parliament Street towards the river front, and will form one of what is expected to be a cluster of tall buildings with an even bigger scheme planned for the site opposite on the former Norton scrap yard at the junction of Parliament Street and Sefton Street.

    The committee unanimously backed the scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Both the Heaps Rice mill
    Paul, have we got a thread for the Heaps Mill Tower Scheme, 3 towers isnt it?
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    Would be interesting to see what they plan to do to it, if anyone's got any more info? Also, does anyone have any history on the place - I couldn't find much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    The tower will be visible to traffic heading down Upper Parliament Street towards the river front, and will form one of what is expected to be a cluster of tall buildings with an even bigger scheme planned for the site opposite on the former Norton scrap yard at the junction of Parliament Street and Sefton Street.

    The committee unanimously backed the scheme.

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    I noticed that myself hopefully we'll hear more soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Paul, have we got a thread for the Heaps Mill Tower Scheme, 3 towers isnt it?
    I think it's a mix of warehouse conversions and new build.

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    Unhappy Baltic Triangle and Queens Dock Areas

    Three 'Six Storey' Blocks I seem to remember....

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    Are they planning to demolish the mill buildings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snappel View Post
    Are they planning to demolish the mill buildings?

    No they'll be incorporated into this scheme.

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