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    Can anyone tell me anything about Sussex Street ? My great great grandfather was the publican at the Grapes Inn, 22 - 24 Sussex Street according to the 1871 census.


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    I've checked some old maps and I think Sussex Street is now the North - South part of Sussex Gardens just along from Luke Street.

    Does anyone have any pictures or information about the area before it was redeveloped ? The maps I have seen seem to show nearby streets as back to back terraces but Sussex Street itself looks to have had bigger buildings.

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    Thanks. I live a bit further afield than Widnes (my birthplace) these days otherwise I'd pop down and have a look for myself - just in case anyone thinks I am being a bit lazy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by WidnesMark View Post
    Can anyone tell me anything about Sussex Street ? My great great grandfather was the publican at the Grapes Inn, 22 - 24 Sussex Street according to the 1871 census.

    I've checked some old maps and I think Sussex Street is now the North - South part of Sussex Gardens just along from Luke Street.

    Does anyone have any pictures or information about the area before it was redeveloped ? The maps I have seen seem to show nearby streets as back to back terraces but Sussex Street itself looks to have had bigger buildings.

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    Sussex St went from Upper Warwick St to Upper Hill St. It continued from Dickens St, which still exists.

    Probably had 3 to 4 high multi-family houses. Sussex Gdns was built on it.
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    Thanks. Do you know when it was demolished/redeveloped ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WidnesMark View Post
    Thanks. Do you know when it was demolished/redeveloped ?
    The 1930s. There was a cooperage on the corner of Upper Warwick St. Sussex St was there in 1838, however the buildings demolished in the 1930s would have been poor quality buildings built after 1838. The Victorians built some real cheap slummy rubbish.
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    As corpy tenements went, Sussex Gardens were late arrivals, after WWII (not inter-war like many of them)

    The fact they had windows in the stairwells bears this out too. Just after they were built, the corpy turned to the 3 high unit style still seen a lot around liverpool as lifts were then put in the larger tenements with a span of more than 6 flats per landing.

    Here's a list as supplied by PhilG some time back

    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/sho...ight=tenements

    It's likely that the Victorian Sussex Street may have survived until the 1950s in parts. The Liverpool records office may have some photographs taken by the city engineers dept. Next time i'm in there i'll take a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    As corpy tenements went, Sussex Gardens were late arrivals, after WWII (not inter-war like many of them)
    I did think about that as they were a nicer design, with no long landings. I couldn't find the date. They must have been just post-war - probably an improved pre-war design put on hold - the tenements did evolve. The doors and fitments were clearly the same as pre-war tenements, whereas the post-war three high flats were clearly more modern designs of fitments.

    Sussex Gdns must have been about the last of the German/Austrian inspired tenement housing in Liverpool.
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