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    Nice pics! - What does it cost to park there?
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    Do you have to pay to park at the Trafford centre ?

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    All day £8 isn't bad considering how much you could pay to park in a City Centre. Quite impressed with how cheap they are to be honest!
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    All day £8 isn't bad considering how much you could pay to park in a City Centre. Quite impressed with how cheap they are to be honest!
    true, especially considering the security in there. you can actually see the security room with the guard sitting in there watching the screens. good deterrent that. plus each level seems to have at least 1 guard wandering about from what I saw and there's CCTV cameras everywhere.

    perhaps Q should take over the other city car parks. especially the one on Mount Pleasant. one of my step daughters was quite unnerved using it the other week.
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    Do you have to pay to park at the Trafford centre ?
    No Lindi, but I'd rather spend my money in Liverpool anyway. The trip to the trafford C would cost that and abit in petrol anyway.
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    It's 90p on the ordinary streets for half an hour, and I wonder how many just put the pound coin in because they have no silver, cos you get no change.
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    Was in the passenger seat of a friends car yesterday and we took a trip from Upper Parly Street along the Dock Road to get to Bootle and I wanted to see what the new Liverpool One building would look like from this side as I've not seen it at that angle.

    What a bloody eyesaw. It takes up all of one side of the road and detracts from looking left at the Albert Dock buildings. It's as ugly as sin, doesn't fit in when you are faced with the 3 Graces in the same eye scan and will date terribly in 10 years.

    The whole road seems darker as a result and it just looks totally out of place.
    I'm sure the inside is very swish but what a monstrosity.

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    I think the architectural impact on the city is well captured on Ben Johnson's cityscape.



    Personally I think those black granite blocks on Mann Island are a bigger monstrosity.

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    Here's a reminder of the view you got when you came out of the old bus station, in May 1996.
    Everything in this photo was demolished.

    Was the pub called the Criterion?
    It was rather rough, and I seem to remember a murder.

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    The pub was the Triton Philip and was where we had a few, over the road from my wedding reception in the moat house in 1988. We also used to go in it as part of our Paradise street pub crawl now and again which included the Beehive, the Eagle and the hotel bar.
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    It was my cousin Ronnie James who was murdered there. He was landlord of the 5th Ave pub (formerly the Triton). He was attacked and killed by a burgler after closing time. My cousin's wife and 3 year old child were upstairs in the living quarters when it happened. The local news was full of it at the time - and for quite a while there were whole pages and double page spreads about the murder - my cousin Ronnie's face seemed to be everywhere you looked. The burgler was eventually arrested and put in prison. I can see his face now - and we won't forget that face.
    the Pub was closed for some time while police and forensics were in there.
    I remember when a new manager took over and he was interviwed about how it felt to take over a pub where there was such a brutal murder.

    My cousin died in a struggle fighting for his life - he was a 6 ft guy and no pushover, he had fought back. He was stabbed numerous times in this vicious attack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    It was my cousin Ronnie James who was murdered there. He was landlord of the 5th Ave pub (formerly the Triton). He was attacked and killed by a burgler after closing time. My cousin's wife and 3 year old child were upstairs in the living quarters when it happened. The local news was full of it at the time - and for quite a while there were whole pages and double page spreads about the murder - my cousin Ronnie's face seemed to be everywhere you looked. The burgler was eventually arrested and put in prison. I can see his face now - and we won't forget that face.
    the Pub was closed for some time while police and forensics were in there.
    I remember when a new manager took over and he was interviwed about how it felt to take over a pub where there was such a brutal murder.

    My cousin died in a struggle fighting for his life - he was a 6 ft guy and no pushover, he had fought back. He was stabbed numerous times in this vicious attack.

    Oh dear, Lindy.
    I'm so sorry I've brought back such distressing memories.

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    That's ok Philip. In a strange kind of way I feel better for telling the story. I often hear the pub being mentioned and I don't say anything.

    I feel it's been an opportunity to talk about it and remember Ronnie.

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    Liverpool ONE boss blasts litter blight
    Jun 10 2008
    by Vicki Kellaway, Liverpool Echo



    THE man behind Liverpool ONE today begged people not to drag the shopping development into the same mire as the rest of the city.

    Grosvenor boss Rod Holmes attacked the filth blighting parts of the city saying it could undermine the success of the £1bn retail centre.

    He warned that shoppers were already dropping litter in Liverpool ONE in much the same way that rubbish overflows around the rest of the streets.

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    The man behind Liverpool ONE today begged people not to drag the shopping development into the same mire as the rest of the city.
    Grosvenor boss Rod Holmes attacked the filth blighting parts of the city saying it could undermine the success of the £1bn retail centre.
    He warned that shoppers were already dropping litter in Liverpool ONE in much the same way that rubbish overflows around the rest of the streets.
    The filth blighting parts of the city?.... rubbish overflows around the rest of the streets?

    S h i t happens, as they say. Busy crowded places generate a degree of rubbish as a matter of course, including Mr Holme's precious Liverpool One. Perhaps he should fork out for for a few more cleaners if he's so upset by the dirty Scousers. Cheeky b a s t a r d.
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    I believe a whole new load of bins are scheduled for there after complaints. Where there's fast food outlets, there'll be rubbish - he can't have it both ways, at least it means the masses are there and probably not all scousers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knowhowe View Post
    The filth blighting parts of the city?.... rubbish overflows around the rest of the streets?

    S h i t happens, as they say. Busy crowded places generate a degree of rubbish as a matter of course, including Mr Holme's precious Liverpool One. Perhaps he should fork out for for a few more cleaners if he's so upset by the dirty Scousers. Cheeky b a s t a r d.

    So it's ok with you to drop sh*te wherever you fancy because someone else will pick up after you?

    Liverpool is one of THE worst cities in the UK for litter and that includes from 'scousers'. I have personally seen dirty scousers walk out of Macdonalds to throw litter in the street and then go back in to finish their meal. Do you think it is ok to encourage this outrageous and filthy behaviour by providing more cleaners to pick up the mess? They should have pride in themselves and take the responsibility to look after their city. You have to take responsibility for this scum if you condone or accept their behaviour

    The council is hell bent on trying to keep the city clean against a tidal wave of people who just don't seem to care. The council spent over a quarter of a million last year just trying to pick up gum. Money that could have been better spent on services.

    This man is not from Liverpool and yet he is trying to make your city a better, more attractive place. He has pride in your city. Where is your pride in your city? In the gutter?

    Grow up, accept the criticism and do something about it. Complain and shout. Make it unacceptable. Moan at people when they drop stuff, don't moan at people who try to change the city for the better.

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    So it's ok with you to drop sh*te wherever you fancy because someone else will pick up after you?

    Liverpool is one of THE worst cities in the UK for litter and that includes from 'scousers'. I have personally seen dirty scousers walk out of Macdonalds to throw litter in the street and then go back in to finish their meal. Do you think it is ok to encourage this outrageous and filthy behaviour by providing more cleaners to pick up the mess? They should have pride in themselves and take the responsibility to look after their city. You have to take responsibility for this scum if you condone or accept their behaviour

    The council is hell bent on trying to keep the city clean against a tidal wave of people who just don't seem to care. The council spent over a quarter of a million last year just trying to pick up gum. Money that could have been better spent on services.



    This man is not from Liverpool and yet he is trying to make your city a better, more attractive place. He has pride in your city. Where is your pride in your city? In the gutter?

    Grow up, accept the criticism and do something about it. Complain and shout. Make it unacceptable. Moan at people when they drop stuff, don't moan at people who try to change the city for the better.

    Dunno about over there but over here fast food outlets have a contract with the council that they will undertake picking up of litter within a 1.5km radius of the restaurant site as part of their franchise license, also kids are brought up with a teaching of taking all litter home with them if they are on school trips, footy trips etc....... a lot of the problem is how you were brought up to look after and respect your surroundings

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    Well, I'm a born and bred Scouser and I love the city with a passion but I absolutely detest the litter. I'm embarassed by it and the city could show off it's beauty so much more if mindless idiots didn't keep disposing of their rubbish all over the city. I really hope this campaign against the litter helps because last Saturday Williamson Square was filthy and I'd hate Liverpool One to turn into a grot spot, we should have pride (afterall aren't scousers meant to be known for their pride) and try to keep the city a wonderful, inviting place. It's simple with me, if I have a piece of rubbish and there's no bin in sight or the nearest is full, I keep hold of it and put it in the next bin I come across or take it home.

    Btw, Lindy, I'm so sorry to hear aout your cousin. May he rest in peace and my thoughts go to you and all the family.

    Also, just want to add I'm really impressed with Liverpool One so far!
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    Well I've just looked at all the pictures, and there's nothing that I haven't seen in a dozen other shopping centres. There's nothing that makes it uniquely Liverpool.

    I'm rather reminded of Pevsner's comments about an "architectural zoo" - let's have one of everything, and no concept of context, or sensitivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danensis View Post
    Well I've just looked at all the pictures, and there's nothing that I haven't seen in a dozen other shopping centres. There's nothing that makes it uniquely Liverpool.

    I'm rather reminded of Pevsner's comments about an "architectural zoo" - let's have one of everything, and no concept of context, or sensitivity.
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    I quite like the new shopping centre. Theres lots of sandstone used (or what appears to be sandstone) and i dunno about you but for me its not like most shopping centres i've been to. For one its an open air shopping centre. The architecture is alot different to say the trafford centre or the bull ring. And i don't know many shopping centres that have a big park, a heritage site on display, and still manage to fit in with the rest of the city. I think the buildings are sensitive enough. The ones on paradise street echo those on church and lord street and the main shopping walk if you will still keeps the lines and building heights from the end of the road by Debanems (or how ever you spell it). I think they've done a pretty good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broliv View Post
    I quite like the new shopping centre. Theres lots of sandstone used (or what appears to be sandstone) and i dunno about you but for me its not like most shopping centres i've been to. For one its an open air shopping centre. The architecture is alot different to say the trafford centre or the bull ring. And i don't know many shopping centres that have a big park, a heritage site on display, and still manage to fit in with the rest of the city. I think the buildings are sensitive enough. The ones on paradise street echo those on church and lord street and the main shopping walk if you will still keeps the lines and building heights from the end of the road by Debanems (or how ever you spell it). I think they've done a pretty good job.
    Couldn't agree more! What makes it unique above all else is that it isn't a shopping centre as such. It is a redevelopment of a huge part of the city centre which incorporates the existing road layout. There is no big roof that covers it all and all the buildings are individually designed, some by world class architects. As you say, how many ' shopping centres ' can you name with a park in the middle of it? Job extremely well done!


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    The new coffee shop on the corner - I love the colours of the pipe-like outer decor. Took this photo this morning. The plastic wrapping is still on the pipes.

    Really eye catching.
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