Looking forward to seeing your photo of the Bromborough Cross, Philip. Thanks in advance! :)
Chris
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Same place - more pics:
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Wonder if the 'Thingwell' inscription is a mistake or if it's correct and 'Thingwall' isn't. Nice to see Broad Green split as it should be. The council on newer signs put Broadgreen. I recently moved from Oak Hill Park off Broad Green Road and they've even done it to that in calling it Oakhill Park. :disgust:
Knottyash just wont work
or edgehill
nice link Cadfael. i should have stayed longer to look at it. i just took a couple of pics and went.
Bit more info on Thingwall:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rep...p?compid=41305
Priory Wood, St Michaels Road. This is an interesting Toxteth Park cross, as it looks to me to have carved deer on it.
Feel free to guess what all the symbols mean...here are my wild guesses.
Top of cross...a bird is encircled by 2 entwined serpents. To the left and right of the centre of the cross (which is worn so I can't make out what was on it), look like a pair of dogs? on each side. The bottom of the cross has the body and head of a person, with their arms across their chest.
Shaft of cross...this has 6 squares of a design that I don't recognise (probably belongs to a family crest?), below this are some animals which I think include deer. At the very bottom of the cross shaft are some circles, which again I don't know.
^^:handclap::handclap:^^ wow!
Not sure of the history of this one. Sited at the junction of Speke Manor Rd and Woolton St.
Very interesting, Marky. I have always been under the impression that everything in St. Michael's is a nineteenth century invention although this has the appearance of being a Saxon or Celtic cross. It is either cleverly done or, I should say, a transplant from somewhere else. Anybody else know anything about it?
Chris
CRUX POTESTAS BEI is along the lines of
CRUX - Cross
POTESTAS - Power
BEI - With or At
Thank you both, MarkA and Cadfael, for the additional interesting information that you have provided on the Woolton cross.
Chris
Re Priory Wood cross:
I'd assumed it was from the Priory near to the 'cazzy' and incorporated into the wall around the time of the Garden Festival/development of Priory Wood.
Look what came out when i took a pic
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/crossy.jpg
Spooky
...a minute later Gnomie realises just where that smoke was coming from :unibrow:
http://mayhem-chaos.net/photoblog/im...mm_07_burn.jpg
No ghost on my pic, unfortunately.
This 'cross' put up at the time of the Garden Festival, and at the same time a booklet was issued by the St Michael's Hamlet Society about the history of the area.
It mentions the arch, which came from the house, the Priory, but doesn't menton this cross, which, as Marky says also probably came from the house.
If it had been ancient, it would have been mentioned somewhere.
Besides, it looks Victorian.
There are three 'crosses' near St Barnabus Church (where I was a choirboy).
Bromborough Cross.
The base and steps are possibly late 13th century and the shaft and head were added in 1874.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/...8b0b0f4c_o.jpg
The Preaching Cross.
Fragments of a Saxon Cross - possibly 10th century - were reassembled, with plain blocks added so it can be easily seen which are the old parts.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/...dddd884f_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1374/...3a0f8afa_o.jpg
The War Memorial.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1290/...3c8c4266_o.jpg
This was the view I really wanted, but the late evening sun was shining right at me.
From left to right the buildings are:
the former Irwins where I was the 'order boy'; the primary school I went to for a few months before going to the local secondary school; (the church is off to the right); and the church institute where I was in the cubs, then the scouts.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1382/...6105482f_o.jpg
the Cross in Whitney Gardens Shaw Street
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94...176/warmem.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94..._regiment1.gif
http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co...l_regiment.htm
Great photographs, Gnomie, MarkA, Philip, and Mandy. Enjoyed them all immensely.
Philip, the St. Michael's cross looks old to me, or at least in my view the carvings could be ancient, Saxon or Celtic. Although I agree with you that if it was really old one would think someone would have mentioned it. If it is a mock-up and most probably it is a Victorian "replica", to my mind, it is a pretty good simulation of an old one.
Chris
Replica Cross, Liverpool Maritime Museum (2nd floor). I forgot to take a pic. of the information panel for this one. Anyway, I recognise the top-right photo as the Bromborough Saxon cross.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...lica_Cross.jpg
No photo here but does anyone remember the old cross in Brookside ?
Harry Cross!!!
(Sorry,I couldn't resist):PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Another Cross from the Wirral, the lesser known Tranmere Cross
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2...1008077io0.jpg
Tranmere Cross, Victoria Park, Tranmere Village
Tranmere Cross stands at the Church Road Entrance to Victoria Park, in the centre of the old village of Tranmere.The cross was re-set here in 1937 after being moved from the Church Road/Dial Road junction. It was moved due to the demolition of Tranmere Old Hall (where it was sited for a spell) and also due to the widening/straightening of Church Road.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2...1008079xw3.jpg
Tranmere Cross, Victoria Park, Tranmere Village Local historians think that the cross was carved during the 1500's. The face you see above is one of two which were originally carved.
Reference: Sidelights on Tranmere by JE Allinson
These two images will appear in a forthcoming update to Flickr which takes an extensive look at Tranmere in its current form.
PhilipG: I never knew Bromborough had three crosses! It most certainly is more famous for having a cross in the old village centre.
I once bought an old print, which was supposed to be the High Park Coffee House in Toxteth.
For years I couldn't verify it, and eventually I saw a picture in a book, and it turned out to be Tranmere Old Hall!
I'll take a photo of it in daylight tomorrow, and post it.
Phil, that would be very nice indeed! Sidelights on Tranmere only has prints of Tranmere New Hall; this was demolished during the 1920's with the Tranmere Hall estate being on its grounds. I have been told there is a plaque on one of the houses; will have to venture round that way next time that part of Wirral is lucky enough to receive a visit from yours truly!
Located at the junction of Penny Lane/Hall Lane and Smithy Lane, Cronton.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...nton_Cross.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...s_location.jpg
The Cronton cross is a bit of a paradox. One theory is that it was used as a resting place for pall bearers as they were carrying the coffins through the fields either to Widnes or Rainhill. I believe from a reliable source who is a historian, that there was another such cross in Cronton on Sandy Lane where it meets Cronton Road but that the stonework was stolen in the 1940s or 1950s.
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/htrr005.jpg
Roby Cross
Hi Chris et al.
Such crosses were used as a resting place for pall bearers as they were carrying the coffins. The cross that is on the country lane in lane between Thornton and Sefton was used for such a purpose, as discussed earlier in this thread.
Fine photographs and information here, everyone! :handclap:
Chris